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Steering Shaft Removal ( Marco check here! )

Postby HI WINDING MONZA » Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:22 am

I got one end off ( splined one by the steering box) but how do you get the other end off ? ( by the firewall ) Looks like spot welds on the d- stock where it goes into the round . What is the purpose of that clamp up near the firewall on the shaft? Do I have to pull the whole column? Any help will be appreciated. Thanks, Doug in Az 8)
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Postby littlevega56 » Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:39 am

doug those two spot welds .Are plastic pins.When theres an an accident the shaft will collapse so the wheel wont go in your chest.If you need to take the column out .You have removed the clamp on the steering box. So all you need to do now is remove the screws on the tryangle plate on the column , on the floor pan. and of corse your dash bolts and wiring connector. put your seat all the way back to get it out. Or i have removed the pins in the steering shaft with a punch. To just take the lower shaft section out.
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Postby cjbiagi » Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:59 am

You should be able to unbolt it from the rag joint by the firewall, slide it down a bit, and remove it. I didn't do anything on the inside of the car to remove mine.
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Postby heapster » Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:23 am

The non-tilt's up until at least '75 don't have a "rag joint. you have to pull the whole thing.
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Postby marco_1978_spyder » Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:45 pm

Doug, did you remove the bolt from the clamp on the other end of the steering shaft?

You should just have to remove the bolt and slide it off.
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Postby cjbiagi » Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:13 pm

My 75 Monza has a rag joint. I just looked up the steering shaft in my GM parts manual and it does show a rag joint for all power steering H-bodies from 71 and up. Looks like the manual steering is different, without a rag joint. So, I guess it all depends what you have.
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Postby HI WINDING MONZA » Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:48 pm

So, I just get rid off those plastic pins, and the shaft part under the hood should slide apart? I was hoping not to remove the column if all possible. I will have to install a ujoint in that location to clear my new motors exhaust manifold. My guess on the upper clamp is it is there to hold the shaft from going in the column farther. Its 1980 manual steering. Marco, the ( firewall) clamp is now loose, and slides on the 3/4 DD stock shaft. Doug in Az 8)
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Postby Kev442 » Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:04 pm

I thought it was kinda sneaky of GM to use an 11mm 12 pt for that clamp bolt. Back in the day, very few people had that laying in their tool box! 8)
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Postby cjbiagi » Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:11 pm

It's hard to tell from the pic but it looks like the manual steering just has one long shaft from the steering wheel to the gearbox. The power steering setup shows to distinct shafts, one from the box to the firewall (rag joint0 and then another inside the column. The manual setup really just shows one shaft. When you wiggle the shaft can front to rear, can you see the steering wheel move with it? I have a service manual, I'll try and look later if nobody has an answer. I don't know how the manual one comes apart.
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Postby HI WINDING MONZA » Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:12 pm

Clyde , yes it moves the whole deal. When it comes out the firewall its round for a couple of inches then " squeezes" down to " bottle neck shape" so the 3/4 DD stock can fit in tight . Thats where the 2 "pins" are. It then goes all the way down to the box with some kind of springloaded rubber covered boot joint ( looks like a mini CV joint) with a splined clamp that goes on the box shaft. Doug in AZ 8)
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Postby Hoonbash » Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:22 pm

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Wrap some cloth around the lower shaft,latch on some vise-grips and hammer it out,could be the nylon pins are catching.

As a side note I found a non-power steering tilt column from an Astre SJ and it has the rag joint
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Postby HI WINDING MONZA » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:30 pm

Thanks Harry, I'll give it a try. Doug in Az 8)
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Postby HI WINDING MONZA » Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:24 pm

Tried hammering it out with vicegrip method, no luck yet. Maybe heating it up ( where the plastic pins are?) with a torch might help? Doug in AZ 8)
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Postby HI WINDING MONZA » Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:53 pm

Heated it up today and it came apart , must of been the NY ghost rust ( :D thanks to all for the advice! :D ). Ended taking the whole column out and putting it in a vice to disassemble it. Clyde , you are right , it is all one piece, unless you take out the plastic pins to separate the shaft in the engine bay. With the new motor in the way, the shafts just wouldn't come apart. Its basicly a solid shaft up by the wheel ( 12" long) that goes into a hollow tube that attaches to the other solid shaft at the bottom end of the column. The upper shaft slides up and down freely into the hollow tube about 6 " with the bottom shaft held in with those 2 plastic "shear pins" Doug in Az 8)
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Postby HI WINDING MONZA » Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:50 pm

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