s10 manual gearbox swap anyone done it?

[shoebox1.1]

if the s10 spindles interchange with g body and H, could you swap in a manual s10 box and related parts? i want to go to the yard and "25 dollar" carry out manual brakes, spindles,calipers rotors, M.C. and prop valve. should i get the s10 idler and shaft etc too??

[cosvega76]

The S-10 manual box will bolt in and fit the pitman arm for the Monza power steering application. The input shaft is a different spline than the early p/s box. I believe the change occurred in 1977 or '78 - for a Nova at least, I think it was across the board.

The only problem is that the S-10 manual box has a sloooooow ratio. It's about 4 turns lock-to-lock. My brother put one in his '86 Monte Carlo drag car. Driving that, I don't think I would use one on the street. At times, you're all arms and elbows.

Chuck

[heinz057]

i put the manual s10 box (4 BOLT TOP PLATE)in my 78 wagon that had power steering . . it is a slow ratio. one of the street rod places makes a quicker ratio but i don't remember who

[heinz057]

i used the pitman arm from the p/s i took off

[ColinOpseth]

Can you use a thirdgen F-Body box? I thought they were somewhat interchangeable between the S10 and F-Body.

[shoebox1.1]

colin that was my next question! i remember guys doing somthing with some year f car box. i really dont mind the 4 turns lock to lock, as long as its clean,manual and simple illl take it!

[heinz057]

yes they will fit. you can also use one from a monte ss.

[shoebox1.1]

lets say i get a s10 manual box can i use the pitman,idler and centerlink for the s10? while im there i can get everything. i did get my spindles calipers and rotors already but the truck was power steering. got em for 60 bucks!

[ColinOpseth]

Nice snag

[shoebox1.1]

im going to the yard tomorrow... think i can get just the box,pit,and steering shaft?

[shoebox1.1]

well i finally got the 88 manual s10 gearbox installed, a 78 monza power steering tilt column and a power steering steering shaft from a 78 monza. the shaft goes on the column ok but does not fit the 88 manual gearbox. the splines are just a lil bigger it wont work. im going to have to crossbreed and fabricate somthing now...

[bill1978v8]

here is a site with good info.

http://www.borgeson.com/StreetRodProduct.htm

looks like the monza box is 3/4-36 and the S-10 from 86 up is 3/4-30.

bill

[heinz057]

did you get the box with the 3 or 4 bolt cover.i have a 78 wagon and used the 4bolt cover manual box from the s10 and every thing fit. the car came with p/s. i used the orginal pitman arm from the p/s.

[shoebox1.1]

i dont know if its a 3 or 4 bolt cover ill check when i get home. did your shaft spline right into the manual box?

[heinz057]

yes i just had to lenthen the shaft. i heated up the plastic in the shafts and pulled them apart till it was the right lenth then i drilled new holes and melted some new plastic into the holes.