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Postby mcssed » Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:20 pm

has any one done the tried and true leaf spring set up on a Monza or Vega. found and S10 at the junk yard and thought it would be nice to use that suspension set up with my 8 3/4 4:56 rear end.
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Postby chevyart » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:45 am

About 3 tears abo I met a guy at Island Dragway in NJ who had converter his notchback vega (Aprox 1975 model) and it wokked great. He was running in the10s all day. He was from mid pennsylvania and said his home track(Ithink) was either Numediam or Beaver Springs. He was a retired electrician around 50 years old. From this info maybe one of our pennsylvania guys will help to find this fellow for you to get your info homemade leaf spring setup Chevy Art
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Postby spyder_xlch » Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:25 am

Numidia is not far from me but I haven't been to a track in almost 10 years. I don't know the car you're talking about. Leaf springs can be made to work but I wouldn't change the stock torque arm set up unless I really had to. What suspension is in your car now and is the 8-3/4" currently in it?
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Postby mcssed » Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:20 pm

I bought the mopar rear complete (guy told me it came out of an A-body?). I fabbed up my own tourqe arm with boxed lca's that I found on ebay. I run a glide with 4:56's.
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Postby spyder_xlch » Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:06 pm

So if I follow you correctly, you have the Mopar 8-3/4" rear in your car with the torque arm/LCA and most likely a panhard bar. Don't change that out for a leaf spring set up. ChevyArt said the guy with the leaf spring Vega ran 10's. Stock suspension vegas can run 10's and I've heard of mid to low 9's. It's possible the guy with the leaf spring vega could run mid to low 9's too. I just don't think it's worth changing to leafs unless you really have to.
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Postby DEMON Precision » Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:40 pm

spyder_xlch wrote:So if I follow you correctly, you have the Mopar 8-3/4" rear in your car with the torque arm/LCA and most likely a panhard bar. Don't change that out for a leaf spring set up. ChevyArt said the guy with the leaf spring Vega ran 10's. Stock suspension vegas can run 10's and I've heard of mid to low 9's. It's possible the guy with the leaf spring vega could run mid to low 9's too. I just don't think it's worth changing to leafs unless you really have to.


if a 3500lb nova with a 275 dragradial tire can run a 7.90 in the 1/4 i,m pretty sure a lighter vega could run low 9,s with the same style suspension
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Postby spyder_xlch » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:31 pm

Even if the Vega had a stock 140CI? :lol:
If the Vega had the same HP and TQ as the Nova and hooked up just as well as the Nova with the same leaf spring suspension as the Nova and was lighter than the Nova I'm pretty sure it would be faster than the Nova.
But take a Vega that runs 9's on the stock style suspension and change to leaf springs will it still run 9's without alot of dialing in the new suspension?
I'm just saying it doesn't make sense to me to change to leafs unless there's a good reason. I don't see a good reason.
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Postby mcssed » Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:48 pm

i was at fall swap meet Carlisle Pa. and there was a guy there selling suspension parts for the Chevy II. he had an unwelded front subframe for this type car. anyone done this type of setup for a Monza/Vega. you could adapt this subframe a run any type of oil pan, headers, rack and pinion etc....including a big block. cool idea!!!!
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Postby mcssed » Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:56 pm

i also have a set of no hop bars (Lakewood?) another 8 3/4" that is narrow with 12"wide Centerlines to fit. but i would hate to cut up the car. although mini tubbing the car would not be out of the question. lots of parts that i had for years but not enough hours in the day.
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Postby Kenova » Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:07 pm

The torque arm suspension is more versatile than the leaf spring suspension. Check out some of the third and fourth gen F-body forums. It'll blow your mind the way some of these cars are hooking with the torque arm suspension.
Yes, leaf springs can be made to work, but the ones in my Nova are on borrowed time with a torque arm being the leading choice to replace them.

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Postby mcssed » Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:17 pm

there is no doubt that f body suspension has gotten better and better. i had a 2000 z and it was a blast to drive. i fabbed up a copy of a tourqe arm setup that Summitt racing did on a Mustnag mind you. kinda works on my car but with 3800 stall and 4:56 just blows the small tires off..........
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Postby Fasterthansome » Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:02 pm

Torque arm suspension here, with a 26x8 dot tire went 9.40's
It goes a bit faster with 27x9 dot and 2 stages
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Chevy II Front Subframe on a Vega

Postby res0o7eb » Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:10 pm

Not to hijack this thread about leaf spring rear suspensions, but ...

mcssed wrote:suspension parts for the Chevy II. he had an unwelded front subframe for this type car. anyone done this type of setup for a Monza/Vega.
I have often thought about this. Would it be possible to adapt an after market, bolt on, early Chevy II/Nova front sub-frame to a Vega? This sub-frame seems narrow enough. Would need to weld up something(SFC's ???) to allow it to bolt on.

http://www.heidts.com/heip26.htm
http://www.martzchassis.net/page2.htm
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Postby spyder_xlch » Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:13 pm

Sub frame may seem narrow enough but what about the track width? Are they close?
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Postby res0o7eb » Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:21 pm

spyder_xlch wrote:Sub frame may seem narrow enough but what about the track width? Are they close?
I have not been able to determine that, yet. Good point.

Vega front tread( same as track?) width = 54.8"
Nova front track width = 58" - bummer.
This site says 58"
http://www.quickperformance.com/Technic ... easure.htm

This one offers a narrowed width subframe for a 62-67 Nova:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Direct-B ... dZViewItem
Another narrowed one (frame -1" each side and A-arms -5/8"):
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TCI-62-6 ... dZViewItem
Chris Alston offers a narrowed to 57" subframe:
http://www.cachassisworks.com/DataSheet ... DS_WEB.pdf
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