What side up???

Moderator: Moderators

What side up???

Postby 71LS1Vega » Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:00 pm

I know this is a dumb question but, I just bought new springs and they dont have any markings on them.

I am wondering if the flat side goes up or down. only one side of the spring i can set on the floor without them toppling over. Also the rubber goes on top of the spring correct? The rubber to quiet any road noise/vibrations transfered from the suspension to the body.
71 Vega GT LS1/M6
71LS1Vega
 
Posts: 204
Joined: Wed Jun 28, 2006 4:37 pm
Location: West Chazy, NY

1971 Chevrolet Vega GT


Re: What side up???

Postby cjbiagi » Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:04 pm

I believe that is correct, flat side down and the rubber insulator on top.
Clyde.........75 Monza 2+2
User avatar
cjbiagi
 
Posts: 8320
Joined: Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:37 pm
Location: Glenwood, Illinois

1975 Chevrolet Monza

Re: What side up???

Postby 71LS1Vega » Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:37 pm

Awsome, thanks clyde!
71 Vega GT LS1/M6
71LS1Vega
 
Posts: 204
Joined: Wed Jun 28, 2006 4:37 pm
Location: West Chazy, NY

1971 Chevrolet Vega GT

Re: What side up???

Postby chevyart » Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:50 pm

hey 71 ls go to post in the suspension section(last post, dated jan 19 09 titled front coil springs by 1973 vegasandiego. he tells you the correct way to install the spring. this was a fairly recent post good luck chevy art
chevyart
 
Posts: 1866
Joined: Fri Oct 27, 2006 10:00 pm

Re: What side up???

Postby 71LS1Vega » Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:22 am

Ah ok, i thought i read it somewhere but i wasnt sure if it was on this forum or not. they will be going in tomorrow, i cant wait! Thanks for the help!
71 Vega GT LS1/M6
71LS1Vega
 
Posts: 204
Joined: Wed Jun 28, 2006 4:37 pm
Location: West Chazy, NY

1971 Chevrolet Vega GT

Re: What side up???

Postby chevyart » Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:09 pm

hey 71 ls. lety me know after you didthe job exactly sthe sequence you did the job in, and if you had difficulties, and is is dangerous ulloading the coils. i will be doing mine this spring and i have never done a front coil spring change and i don want to ,kill myself with an exploding spring thanks chevy art
chevyart
 
Posts: 1866
Joined: Fri Oct 27, 2006 10:00 pm

Re: What side up???

Postby 71LS1Vega » Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:52 pm

Well to take the springs out, all i did was get the car up on jack stands and leave the suspension hanging. then i put a jack underneath the lower control arm. and i dissasembled front suspension. removed the shock, upper ball joint and lower steering arms ect. but before i took off the lower ball joint i put a little pressure on the lower control arm. when i took it off i had to tap it with a hammer just a little and it popped loose... I made sure i had the car high enough off the ground where i had enough clearance to lower the jack enough to where i was able to get the spring out.

Im sure this is probably the worst way to take the spring out but thats how i did it and it seemed to work very well just be very cautions!

To put them back in i have not gotten that far since i have to replace the lower ball joints after i do that i will probably rent a small spring compressor and compress them a litlte bit then use the weight of the car to get them back in.

I Beleive alot of people are using long lengths of large diameter threaded rod with nuts washers and plates(for more surface area at the top and bottom to help compress the spring but not certain to how well that works?

ill post when i actually do it to let you know how it goes.
71 Vega GT LS1/M6
71LS1Vega
 
Posts: 204
Joined: Wed Jun 28, 2006 4:37 pm
Location: West Chazy, NY

1971 Chevrolet Vega GT

Re: What side up???

Postby 73astregt » Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:04 am

take your springs to your local spring shop . probably for a few bucks they can compress and band them for you(steel strapping) then all you do is install them attach the balljoints to the spindals put the jack under the lower control arm and cut the straps. way easier than trying to compress them at home and much safer!
73 astre gt 355 small block 435 hp 435 torque edelbrock performer rpm power package
User avatar
73astregt
 
Posts: 2226
Joined: Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:50 pm
Location: Bridgewater Nova Scotia Canada

1973 Pontiac Astre GT

Re: What side up???

Postby 71LS1Vega » Sat Mar 14, 2009 7:50 am

There we go, a much better idea! :) its all about being safe!
71 Vega GT LS1/M6
71LS1Vega
 
Posts: 204
Joined: Wed Jun 28, 2006 4:37 pm
Location: West Chazy, NY

1971 Chevrolet Vega GT

Re: What side up???

Postby marco_1978_spyder » Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:19 am

With the spring out of the car, check out inside the upper spring pocket. You'll be able to feel a high point where the end of the coil is designed to rest in.
1978 Monza Spyder V8 4speed, posi
1978 Sunbird Formula V6, 5 Speed, Hatchback
1980 Sunbird Hatchback 4cyl, 4spd.
2006 Chevrolet Aveo 5 speed Hatchback
Yes, you can refer to me as Mark
Please visit my blog... http://chevymonza.blogspot.com/ Follow if you like!
Featuring special guests; Carl Beraytor and Ray D'atore

My Red spyder now has a youtube channel please Like and Subscribe!!!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOzzSR ... ISuing7KLA
User avatar
marco_1978_spyder
Senior Moderator
 
Posts: 5279
Joined: Sun Jun 25, 2006 5:20 pm
Location: Western, New YorK / Rochester

Re: What side up???

Postby chevyart » Sun Mar 15, 2009 2:01 am

hey astre gt good idea thanks. hey marco thats a real good point to check on so that spring goes to the right place the first time thanks for some good pointer guys chevy art
chevyart
 
Posts: 1866
Joined: Fri Oct 27, 2006 10:00 pm

Re: What side up???

Postby kayak » Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:36 pm

take your springs to your local spring shop . probably for a few bucks they can compress and band them for you(steel strapping) then all you do is install them attach the balljoints to the spindals put the jack under the lower control arm and cut the straps. way easier than trying to compress them at home and much safer!


Recently I've seen activity on other boards regarding the use of industrial strength zip ties to do the same thing…using a spring compressor to shorten the spring, zip tying it off and making for an easier / safer install.

Couple of UToob videos demo the process. I have some pretty decently thick and masculine zip ties that I was thinking of using to install my new front springs.

Here are some shots I've collected online.

img_4734.jpg
img_4734.jpg (248.24 KiB) Viewed 342 times

IMG_1072m.jpg
IMG_1072m.jpg (87.64 KiB) Viewed 342 times

susp18big.jpg
susp18big.jpg (53.3 KiB) Viewed 342 times
1975 Buick Skyhawk (survivor)
User avatar
kayak
 
Posts: 37
Joined: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:35 pm
Location: Oklahoma

Re: What side up???

Postby Kenova » Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:16 pm

:shock:
WOW!!
That ... if ... when .... I'm just speechless.

Ken
My other car is a Nova.
User avatar
Kenova
 
Posts: 1596
Joined: Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:46 pm
Location: Ontario, Canada

Re: What side up???

Postby kayak » Fri Mar 11, 2016 12:35 am

Kenova wrote::shock:
WOW!!
That ... if ... when .... I'm just speechless.

Ken

No kidding. Duct tape, WD40, and zip ties. Tool kit for survival on Mars.
1975 Buick Skyhawk (survivor)
User avatar
kayak
 
Posts: 37
Joined: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:35 pm
Location: Oklahoma


Return to Suspension, Steering, & Brakes Tech

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest