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Postby 283vega » Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:35 am

Different front spindles? I know people regularly use the s10 spindles but I've heard talk of first gen camaro spindles
being a possibility because the steering arm portion is removeable and can be turned to to right direction for our cars.There is a ton of brake stuff for these cars and reasonable priced kits out the wazu!
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Re: different front spindles?

Postby BillPappy » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:21 am

I remember looking at a set of 68 camaro spindles.There was something not right about them..Might have been to tall. HEH I just can't remember..

I will go dig them out and take a new look at them..
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Re: different front spindles?

Postby Kenova » Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:08 pm

BillPappy wrote:.....There was something not right about them..Might have been to tall. HEH I just can't remember..

I think it's the steering arms. The Camaro and Nova arms would place the outer tie-rod too low I believe. The A-body steering arm would probably come closer to placing the tie-rod in the right spot.

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Re: different front spindles?

Postby 283vega » Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:20 am

So what your saying is the spindle is ok but you need to use the A body sreering arm? I was looking at the lastest speedway catalog that came with my Hemmings motor news and the early camaro spindles are the same as the early chevelle with just different steering arms . Shred had also mentioned Mustang II spindles as a possibility, anybody into checking that one out? Theres lots of good stuff in those speedway catalogs.
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Re: different front spindles?

Postby Kenova » Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:53 am

283vega wrote:So what your saying is the spindle is ok but you need to use the A body sreering arm?

That is my best guess.
I've looked at the spindle assembly on my '71 Nova and it appears to place the outer tie-rod end lower (in relation to the lower ball joint) than the outer tie-rod joint on my Vega.

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Re: different front spindles?

Postby 72 SS PNL » Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:41 am

1st gen camaro the steering arm go towards the rear , the chevelle go towards the front

other wise yes they use the same spindle , as did the impala
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Re: different front spindles?

Postby Ishiftem » Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:11 pm

The Mustang II are shorter. The Impala and other full size cars had different spindles than the Camaro and Nova. There are cheap ways to put big brakes on S-10/G- body spindles. Here is a link http://v8s10.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=17842 . This probably the cheapest and easiest way to put 12" brakes on your H-body. If you don't want to make brackets, I believe there are a few people who sell them.
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Re: different front spindles?

Postby monzajer » Mon Dec 13, 2010 2:01 pm

Ishiftem, thanks for posting that link. Good stuff :th: ! Rickracer is a member here as well.

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Re: different front spindles?

Postby 72 SS PNL » Mon Dec 13, 2010 2:48 pm

Ishiftem wrote:The Mustang II are shorter. The Impala and other full size cars had different spindles than the Camaro and Nova. There are cheap ways to put big brakes on S-10/G- body spindles. Here is a link http://v8s10.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=17842 . This probably the cheapest and easiest way to put 12" brakes on your H-body. If you don't want to make brackets, I believe there are a few people who sell them.


let me fix this a little the earlier , i wanna say 65-69(70) used a 2 piece spindle like the 67-69 camaro , 64-72 A-body , 68-72(possibly 74) x-body

the impala changed to a 1 piece and yes those are taller
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Re: different front spindles?

Postby 283vega » Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:42 am

Anybody know where I can find some drawings or just dimensions for the 67-9 camaro spindles as well as the s10 and vega?OPPS I think I can find the s10 and vega ones on Bob Gumms site ,but I still need the camaro dimensions.
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Re: different front spindles?

Postby 283vega » Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:07 pm

BUMP :bored:
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Re: different front spindles?

Postby chevy art » Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:22 am

has anybody ever thought about sending a vega spindle to speedway and see what they can come up with as far as a good replacement for the h-body spindle. may be worth a try. if anyone could do something, it would probably be those people. just a thought art
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Re: different front spindles?

Postby ROB » Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:24 pm

Anyone thought of 2nd gen F-body spindles? From what I've been able to research, these would be about 1" taller than the S-10's (help the camber curve) the steering arm is about 6.5" (same as S-10) and uses the same ball joints. This would also use an 11" rotor (vs 10.5" on S-10).

Sounds feasable right?

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Re: different front spindles?

Postby BillPappy » Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:38 am

I have a set of 68 camaro spindles no arms. I was going to take a few pics of. All I got is a shitty cam phone.
I can't seem to remember anything now days. Sorry guys. It seems if I don't get reminded 4 or five times I forget..
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Re: different front spindles?

Postby ethelkilledfred » Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:18 am

I have a Vega I picked up a few years ago with a 12 bolt in the rear and stock Camaro front spindles. I keep forgetting to take pics of the front brakes.

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Here is 411 I found off the net reguarding Camaro spindle swaps-

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6474SMK-S 1967-69 Camaro & 1968-74 Nova, stock spindle

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6474WBP-S 1968-74 Nova/1967-69 Camaro, kit

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I am certainly not rich but I am an engineer. I am a mechanic as a hobby. The brakes on the Vega are a combination '69 Camaro, actually from a '74 Nova, on the front and '80 Cadillac Eldorado rears. I chose these to get a 70/30 brake distribution without a pressure regulator.

The front calipers have been used on many GM cars from 1968 to 1998. There are some minor differences over the years such as metric fittings on newer ones. I used the entire spindle from the Nova and modified the control arms to use the larger ball joints. These spindles were used on '64-'72 Chevelle, etc, '67-69 Camaro, etc, and '68-74 Nova, etc. These spindles are taller then the Vega spindle and increase the camber gain. Begining in 1969, single piston sliding calipers were used. I also increased the caster angle from -3/4 to +5 by moving the lower ball joint location forward and making new upper control arms. The car uses power steering from a '84 Camaro Z-28 (bolt in) and has a special spool valve.

The rear calipers, rotors and brackets were adapted to a Monza rear axle. The axle shafts were redrilled with the 5 on 4 3/4 bolt pattern. The parking brake levers would interfere with the inner wheel well so I spaced the calipers and rotors out 1.4 inches each side. This worked well since the front end is wider than with the Vega spindles. I understand that 2wd S-10 axles from '82 or 83 are direct replacements for the Monza axle (7.5 ring gear) to provide the 5 bolt pattern without redrilling. My cars are '76s so they all use the torque arm and panhard rod rear suspension. This is as good as it gets for a live axle.
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