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Postby mrolds88 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:32 pm

I have been reading over a lot of posts about S10 spindles and the issues associated with them. Are the A/G body spindles any better? What about later S10 spindles?
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Re: Spindle swap

Postby druggles85 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:29 pm

Not sure what era A-body you mean. G-body / late rwd A-body cars use the same steering knuckles as the S10.
Later S10 knuckles use dual piston rotors and a different front wheel bearing assembly but the tie ball joint and tie rod mounting locations are the same. I've found that 1996 and newer S10 knuckles use a different tie rod end than older models, This is a complication for me because I've been searching for a tie rod to use on my Chevette rack and pinion. However the G-body guys seem to use the newer knuckles so it might not be a problem using factory tie rods with the adjusting sleeve. Sorry I can't offer any practical advice, I really don't know this platform.
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Re: Spindle swap

Postby cosvega76 » Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:50 am

The only difference between the '95-prior and '96-newer S10 outer tie rod ends is that they went from a 5/8" thread on the adjuster to an 11/16" thread. The dimensions on the taper where it fits into the spindle are the same.


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Re: Spindle swap

Postby zzip » Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:48 pm

Hi all,

maybe a stupid question, what means S10 ?

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Re: Spindle swap

Postby druggles85 » Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:01 pm

cosvega76 wrote:The only difference between the '95-prior and '96-newer S10 outer tie rod ends is that they went from a 5/8" thread on the adjuster to an 11/16" thread. The dimensions on the taper where it fits into the spindle are the same.


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Good to know, I just assumed the taper was different when I noticed the different part numbers... It all goes back to me being too incompetent to find a suitable tie rod end :bang: sorry about the misinformation.
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Re: Spindle swap

Postby NVEGAR8D » Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:40 pm

Hi Peter,
S-10 is a small size chevy pick-up truck that ran from 82 -2005ish. most suspension conversions for our cars come from them.
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Re: Spindle swap

Postby Monza Harry » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:24 pm

Hi Peter here are a couple of pictures of S10's/S15's/Sonoma.
2001_gmc_sonoma_sl_short_bed_2wd-pic-3046287694031356869R.jpg
an early S10
86 Chevy S10 Pickup.jpg
I hope this helps you out Peter! Harry
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Re: Spindle swap

Postby zzip » Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:24 am

Haha :bang: :bang: :bang:

Now i understand it .

Thanks for your reactions :th: :th: :th:

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Re: Spindle swap

Postby zzip » Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:38 am

Question :
I can buy this S10 rear axlefor 100€ (125 $) .

http://www.kapaza.be/nl/onderdelen/pont ... 963379.htm

Is this a good axle for a rear S10 conversion ?

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Re: Spindle swap

Postby Monza Harry » Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:41 pm

Peter the housing is basically useless to you, as the S10 doesn't have a torque arm mount. One could be configured but a lot of work for no real gain (or you could use it for a 4 link conversion). The axle shafts and carrier if they are the newer 28 spline and the ring and pinion (with an inexpensive little mod, if it is a gear you could work with) may be handy. The most usable parts for us are inside the case and only if it has the 28 spline shafts, the pinion shaft is bigger than ours but can be turned or the less than reliable thin bearings could be used. If that is a "Posi" and a good for you gear, with the 28 spline that is a pretty good price for those parts used (at least here in Canada) a posi carrier is over $300 so I would take a look if it isn't to far away. The S10 plus, is the spline count on the newer ones and the 5 bolt pattern in one nice swoop. The 26 count shafts are about a 99% bolt-in to our rears for the 5 bolt conversion. Weigh your options from there, and let us know please. Harry P.S. Make sure it is two wheel drive, as the 4X4's are wider axles!
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Re: Spindle swap

Postby 73 307 GT » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:47 am

I too have been reading over posts regarding S-10 spindle/brake swaps, but there is still a question that my feeble brain has yet to discern the answer to. Is there any reason, other than the increased robustness of the S-10 ball joints, to use them over the late Monza ball joints with adapters? I put late Monza a-arm/spindle/brakes on my '73 years ago. Is there any problem with using the adapters from Bob Gumm? I'd rather avoid dealing with the potential steering geometry problems that can come with using the S-10 joints. Or have I missed something in my reading? (very possible :oops: )
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Re: Spindle swap

Postby zzip » Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:53 pm

Hi all,
i go follow the wise advise of Monza Harry .
i'm busy to collect all informatiom about the S-10 swap from the official H-Body internet community,
V8 H-Body talk, H-Body organisation, Homestead V8 Monza...
There are so many versions .
In Flanders we say : you can't see the tree in the wood anymore .
Next winter i try the swap by myself .
During that period, i go study .

druggles85 : The G-Body, is the Camaro 3the generation (1982-1992) .
73 307GT : Maybe there are more S-10's then Camaro's 3 Gen .
I read something about a geometryproblem with the adapters from Bob Grumm,
but i cant find it anymore . If i find it ... i let you know .

Sorry for my poor English ( I nevr learn it )

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Re: Spindle swap

Postby druggles85 » Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:24 pm

zzip wrote:druggles85 : The G-Body, is the Camaro 3the generation (1982-1992) .


The third generation Camaro is actually an F-body, These have taller spindles which I believe are more similar to the B-body cars.

The G-body cars were 1982-1988 and were a continuation of the 1978+ A-body
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_G_platform_(1969)
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Re: Spindle swap

Postby cosvega76 » Fri Nov 07, 2014 8:45 am

druggles85 wrote:
zzip wrote:druggles85 : The G-Body, is the Camaro 3the generation (1982-1992) .


The third generation Camaro is actually an F-body, These have taller spindles which I believe are more similar to the B-body cars.

The G-body cars were 1982-1988 and were a continuation of the 1978+ A-body
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_G_platform_(1969)



Third Gen Camaros actually have a modified strut front suspension, no upper control arms.

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Re: Spindle swap

Postby zzip » Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:25 pm

Oeps, make a mistake . :bang:

Sorry

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