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Rack & Pinion in Monza

PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:18 pm
by hawkeye
Anyone tried to put a R&P in an H-body. Need more clearance where the drag link is for a deeper pan..

Re: Rack & Pinion in Monza

PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:45 pm
by Smiley
what motor and pan are you using?

Re: Rack & Pinion in Monza

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:20 pm
by hawkeye
sbc 350 and the Moroso Vega/Monza pan #20230..

Re: Rack & Pinion in Monza

PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:50 am
by Smiley
That pan is only deeper in the rear sump area.
The factory V8 motor mounts tend to sag over time reducing the oil pan to drag link clearance.
You may need to replace or shim the motor mounts.
Power by Ace and V8Monza.com both offer replacement mounts of improved design for factory V8 cars.

To answer your original question, people have converted H-bodies to rack and pinion but it is costly just to gain oil pan clearance.

Re: Rack & Pinion in Monza

PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:02 pm
by monzaaddict
next question -what mounts and headers/manifolds are you using?

Re: Rack & Pinion in Monza

PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:25 pm
by hawkeye
I have a motor plate, and Stahl kit headers (1 7/8"). I wanted to build a 3.750 stroker engine, but need a deeper pan on the front half, I only have 1/4" clearanceon the Moroso pan now.

Re: Rack & Pinion in Monza

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:09 am
by Smiley
Overkill Racecars made some tubular K members with rack mounts.
He stopped doing H body parts for a while but he might make more.
$400 each.
Image

Re: Rack & Pinion in Monza

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:36 am
by hawkeye
Thanks Smiley, wish I knew about this place 5 years ago..

Re: Rack & Pinion in Monza

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:08 pm
by Smiley
Waybad reposted some of his rack pictures that were wiped out by photobucket.

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=28042&start=330

Re: Rack & Pinion in Monza

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:56 am
by 1oldmf
I have the overkill K member, with R&P,
using buick V6,
also S10 spindles/brakes.
works well............but..........

had wild steering issues, made for very scary higher speeds.
was so touchy, thought I was going to spin out,
problem is R&P is ford design and uses 700-800 lbs pressure,
most use GM pwr strg pump, which normally operates at 1300lbs ,
so it does make for an exciting ride! LOL.

I posted in another post on what I did to correct the issue,
now I can drink my coffee while driving ( where as I wore my coffee before!)

Re: Rack & Pinion in Monza

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:00 pm
by sirrick4
Okey dokey so how much benefit do you get installing a R & P? Is the steering more precise? I have been thinking about it for a while now because I can't stand the really vague steering in my Monza. It drives like a boat.
Cheers
Rick

Re: Rack & Pinion in Monza

PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:37 am
by Smiley
If you use aftermarket rods with the 3.75" crank the oil pan you have should work.
You can get your steering box rebuilt with the fast ratio internals.

Re: Rack & Pinion in Monza

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:16 pm
by hawkeye
I put a Vega manual box in my Monza, steers real good, only 1 1/2 turns stop to stop (25" tires)..