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carb tuning help

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:30 am
by katostud
i have a holley 750 double pumper carb with a proform main body on my 350. it runs good but had some bogs and flat spots. it seems 2 have a little stumble on the primarys and a bog when the secondarys open and theres some black soot in the pipes like its running rich. what jets do u recomend? i have a 350 with 10.5to1 compression,air gap intake stock iron heads with z28 springs not sure of the cam but guessing like a 540 lift,hooker 2135 headers with 2 1/2 in exhaust with turbo mufflers

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:22 am
by 2lucke4u
Kato
Just did the dyno tuning and settled on 72 primary and 78 secondary,that put the air/fuel just right at 5500 rpm,I had the same problem before we started the tune,,
Charlres

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:55 am
by Sirshredalot
Where are your bogs?
Are they at idle when you give it gas or under a load when driving?
Just off idle? WOT?

Lemme know more...I love carb tuning.

God bless
-Shred

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:41 pm
by katostud
its when your driving when u give it some gas. and when its ideling in park and u smash the pedal

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:10 pm
by 2lucke4u
exactly my problem before the tune,,,change your jets and go from there,,,
Charles

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:15 pm
by Sirshredalot
Accelerator pump shot.

Youre not transitioning well from off idle to WOT circuit.

Lots of things can help.

First i would take vaccum readings to see where your vaccum is at idle and from there select your power valves.
If your PV's are rated higher than your vaccum reading (big cam) than youll have no fuel to cover the transition.

Also bigger discharge nozzels(squirters) can help as can a 50cc pump setup on the primaries.
The bigger nozzels will flow more fuel faster to help with that bog....you can also change the accelerator pump cams to get fuel to come in faster.

Jets will susally cause you to loose top end or have a high rpm surge.

either way shes wanting more fuel.

God bless
-Shred

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 7:32 pm
by Caveman
Shreds is correct. But, I would snuggest that once you are running along you may be too rich on your primary's with the black soot problem also, look at your spark plugs.
John

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:32 am
by katostud
thanks 4 your help guys. my dad broke out the old holley tuning books and we got it close. we drilled out the squiters a few thousands and got it close. 2 of the squiters that came with the proform main body werent even drilled all the way through. gotta switch jets in the primarys and it will be good 2 go

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:47 pm
by Sirshredalot
Hey Katostud,

Take off your accelerator pump cam from the primary side and turn it around "backwards"

That will give you some faster pump shot and help out...on the cheap too.
Also if its the kind that has the wide ramp...you can file that off to get it to seat flush.

God bless
-Shred

PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 1:51 am
by katostud
thanks again. we switched cams and the pumps are working great now and drilled out the squirters and bogs and flat spots are gone. we switched jets in the primarys cuz there was a serge at 2800 to 3000rpms crusing and we went the wrong way. putting in the different jets tomorrow 2 see if it cures it. also now its starting to run out of gas at 5700 rpms with the stock fuel pump so my buddy lent me a bigger one to try out

PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:09 pm
by katostud
switched jets in the primarys and put on the bigger fuel pump. that was the ticket. runs great now. no bogs flat spots or hesitation.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 5:32 pm
by Caveman
Great, You gotta love carbs. EFI is fun too.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:23 pm
by katostud
one more question. when i hit about 6000rpms theres a little popping. do u think i might be a little lean on the secondary jets still? i never touched them in the tuning we did

PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:32 pm
by Caveman
Popping could be ignition or is it stalling what they call pushing over. A good rule is about 5 to 7 jet sizes up from your primary's on your secondary's. Could be valve float too.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:08 am
by katostud
i dont think its valve float cuz it wants 2 keep reving. put in the jets that came with the proform main body. not sure what they are. had to go up 2 jet sizes in the primarys so im thinking i need to go up in the secondarys as well. im at 74's in the primarys will see this week whats in the secondarys