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carter external fuel pump install where did you mount it ???

Postby Vega Joe » Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:28 pm

My stock pump died so im gonna replace it with the carter unit , where do you mount the new pump ?? can someone post some pics of where you mounted it ?? Thank You
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Re: carter external fuel pump install where did you mount it

Postby dadhad1 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:36 pm

Hi Joe,
For what it's worth, Airtex makes new replacement in-tank fuel pumps for our cars.
You can get through RockAuto.com

Thinking you'll have to drop to the tank anyway as trying to pull through a dead pump might not work.
Unless you're running something with high fuel demand, the stock pump should keep up for ya.
If you go that route, don't forget to prime it.
Just another option.

I put my external pump in the same spot as the high pressure pump for the Cosworth (below the right/rear seat).

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Re: carter external fuel pump install where did you mount it

Postby rhyolite » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:18 am

Hi Mike,

Was reading this thread, I have 2 dead fuelpumps, was going to replace it with an external pump, but for one car this would be great.
You are talking about this pump are you ?

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1347108&cc=1062087

Will you let me know if this is the correct one, just to be sure before i'll have it ordered and shipping accross the planet :)

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Re: carter external fuel pump install where did you mount it

Postby dadhad1 » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:18 pm

Hey Tiemen,

Yes, the 2485 was the replacement pump I found for a 75 Astre.

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Re: carter external fuel pump install where did you mount it

Postby rhyolite » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:44 am

Mike,

This is great! I actually stopped looking for an intank solution some time ago. Thought there wasn't a plug and play solution, without having to screw around
with pressure regulators and stuff ... Thanks for the tip !!!

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Re: carter external fuel pump install where did you mount it

Postby dadhad1 » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:35 pm

No problem.

I'd make sure to get the filter screen sock for it too.
Be sure you prime it too. You can put a brand new one of these in a tank of gas and if pump is dry, it may not pump.
You don't want to run a new one for any duration of time dry.

There's a number of ways to do it, but I installed mine sealed in the tank, clogged the filler hose with a rag, and with the pump plugged in/key on and pump running, the discharge hose in a pail, blow in the tank's vent hose.
This should provide enough feed pressure to get it primed/pumping.

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Re: carter external fuel pump install where did you mount it

Postby Vega Joe » Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:47 pm

Decided to keep it simple and get the spectra pump and fuel sock I'll worry about using the other pump if I do my v-8 swap thx for all the replies
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Re: carter external fuel pump install where did you mount it

Postby Vega Joe » Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:55 pm

Oh and the spectra pump comes with all the o rings and stuff like the airtex pump shows but it pumps a lil more

And as far as priming since this pump is a flow thru design, I wouldn't think it needs to be primed. Plus if you hook it up turn the key on then climb under the car to blow in the vent wouldn't it already be primed and flowing by then ??? I'm not flaming , just trying to learn .
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Re: carter external fuel pump install where did you mount it

Postby dadhad1 » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:00 pm

Yeah, I've found the pumps are hit or miss.
Some I've done without help, and others need a little kick to get going.
This last one I did needed a little pressure on the inlet side to get it primed & pumping.
I don't think these in tank pumps are really designed to siphon/vacuum very well.

Vega Joe wrote: Plus if you hook it up turn the key on then climb under the car to blow in the vent wouldn't it already be primed and flowing by then ??? I'm not flaming , just trying to learn .


What I meant is engine's not running yet, but key in ON position to supply power to the pump. If the tank is out of the car, but under its mounting location, you can connect the wire plug and access the vent hose/etc from the top. Sorry for the confusion.

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Re: carter external fuel pump install where did you mount it

Postby Vega Joe » Tue Nov 04, 2014 6:22 am

well the spectra pump was a no go does anyone know if the airtex is actually a direct fit ? here is the issue stock pump has a Y shape that fits in the bracket the spectra pump has a smiley face. has anyone else run into this problem ???
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Re: carter external fuel pump install where did you mount it

Postby dadhad1 » Tue Nov 04, 2014 10:38 pm

I can vouch for the Airtex. I've used them. Direct fit, no issues so far.

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Re: carter external fuel pump install where did you mount it

Postby Vega Joe » Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:21 am

dadhad1 wrote:I can vouch for the Airtex. I've used them. Direct fit, no issues so far.

Mike


Rock auto told me even the airtex has the same half circle pattern to fit the bracket and not the 2 slashes that mine has hmmm do you happen to have a pic of the inlet side of the airtex pump ????
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Re: carter external fuel pump install where did you mount it

Postby dadhad1 » Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:21 pm

Looked just like the one you have on the left but worked fine with the same seal you have pictured with the factory bracket.
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Re: carter external fuel pump install where did you mount it

Postby Vega Joe » Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:08 am

Airtex fit no problem the fuel sock is hard to get on are there any tricks
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Re: carter external fuel pump install where did you mount it

Postby dadhad1 » Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:26 pm

The fuel socks are tight. I think they're supposed to be. I just took some small channel locks and lightly twisted it on.

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