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Re: 1976-1980 Monza/Starfire Passenger Option Shipments Reports

Postby marco_1978_spyder » Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:40 pm

Yeah, anything after 08D would be part of the extended 1980's...up to 11D

On the Skyhawk totals, I asked about, I have a trim tag from the very end of 1978

And yep...Its 24,107 Only 2 production days left, and 482 units to go.

This one was Silver and had special striping "X9BLK"

What was the X9 package? does X9 ring a bell? Its alot like spyders say 02BLK

Was there a ZX9 RPO?
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Re: 1976-1980 Monza/Starfire Passenger Option Shipments Reports

Postby stage169 » Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:04 am

I think the RPO would be DX9. Body Accent Stripes (std. on SkyHawk, part of Code WH3 on SkyHawk "S"). If you got body side moldings that replaced the stripes. Black stripes could be on any exterior color except black, dark green metallic and brown metallic. Brian
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Re: 1976-1980 Monza/Starfire Passenger Option Shipments Reports

Postby marco_1978_spyder » Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:25 am

This was from a silver car, and it had a black hawk decal on the fenders. I remember that it was unusual, but looked factory.

And what do you know...there's the X9....'DX9' . Thanks for confirming that.

The cool thing is, we can now say, that if your car had any special striping from the factory (lordstown only) It can be verified on the trim tag as well as the build sheet.

I have some Pontiac Sunbird tags, 1 with "98WHT" another with "98BLK" on them.

Looking on Bryans site I see..

D98 Rally Stripe/Upper Body Accent Stripes (Pontiac Sunbird)

Pretty cool stuff.
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Re: 1976-1980 Monza/Starfire Passenger Option Shipments Reports

Postby stage169 » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:46 pm

I was going through the 76 report tonight and saw these two RPO's. Hard to read but looks like

B2W Vega/Monza Spirit "76" 41,504 Vega's and 24,646 Monza's. I had heard of the Vega but didn't know the Monza had this option.

Same with the Cabriolet.

C2A Cabriolet equipment sale 1,098 Vega's and 1,212 Monza's

If I read this report correctly for 76 there were only the 2+2 and Towne Coupe Monza's? I did a little search on the web for the Spirit of 76 Monza and there was a posting of a Red, White and Blue V8 76 Monza but I thought maybe they were mistaken on the year. Let me know, Brian
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Re: 1976-1980 Monza/Starfire Passenger Option Shipments Reports

Postby fyrftr50 » Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:33 am

Hey Brian
Yes the Monza for 76 had a "Heritage Interior Trim" package (as did the 76 Vega and Chevette). It was available onm the Vega (except Cosworth and Estate models) and Monza with white, black, silver, firethorn or mahogany exteriors. For the Monza it was only an extra $45 but ranged from $111 to $143 depending on the model you had it installed into. I can't recall exactly the car's colouring that was on here recently, but the advert insert I have shows a white interior with red accents and the shite seats with the bizarre Bicentannial theme print in the middle.
Here is a couple scans of the insert.

Yes, there were only Monza 2+2s and Towne Coupes
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Re: 1976-1980 Monza/Starfire Passenger Option Shipments Reports

Postby stage169 » Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:10 pm

To think that over 25% of the Monza's made had that interior for 76. Did I read that correctly the trim code for the Quick Spec Order Form is 1776? Wow, thanks for the pics!

I posted the 76 car report for the SkyHawk did you see it? Some info on the 80 models also. Brian

Tonight I found RPO code: 07H 1776 Heritage Knit Cloth Buck 2,620 for the Vega only. I wonder if we are talking about two different items? There is a little info about Chevy Spirit of 76 vehicles on the net but nothing for sure. All came with white exterior and a stripe. Interior with white buckets but accented carpert, dash etc... Another question???
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Re: 1976-1980 Monza/Starfire Passenger Option Shipments Reports

Postby fyrftr50 » Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:25 pm

1979 Starfire production numbers. The figures I have from various sources seem to be a little short. OK, a lot short ... 3,873 short. The sheets I just got from Brian state that for '79

Starfire Coupe (T07) - 13,144
Starfire SX Coupe (D07) - 7,155
Starfire Sport Firenza Package (Y65) - 3,873

My figures do not include the Firenza numbers. Since according to the '78 report from Brian, the Y65 could only be ordered on T07 Starfire SX Coupes then this number must be in ADDITION to the T07 numbers, not part of the T07 numbers. That would mean that actually, 17,017 T07 Starfires were produced, of which 3,873 were Firenzas. I have to add 3,873 to the total prioduction numbers I have listed on my website. That is a lot of missed cars.

Damn, this is getting confusing. According these sheets, the D07 and T07 cars flipped in 1978 but the production figures did as well (meaning more of the bare bones cars were produced than the more optioned base models. This is a complete reversal of the 75-77 model years. Apparently Oldsmobile decided to change the base VINs of the SX and S models. For 75-77 the SX was a D07 car, but for 78-80 the SX was a T07 car and vica-versa for the D07 cars (bare bones optioned cars). Why would they bother with this????
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Re: 1976-1980 Monza/Starfire Passenger Option Shipments Reports

Postby stage169 » Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:14 pm

Oh its just the beginning :D The Targa Band came out in 75, 14" tires, Spirit of 76, Cabriolet only shows up on the 76 report and a different RPO, all those RPO's with no descriptions :?: I'm recovering you have yet to peek.......... :lol:
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Re: 1976-1980 Monza/Starfire Passenger Option Shipments Reports

Postby marco_1978_spyder » Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:25 am

Sooo Hmmm.....

E07 Pontiac only Bodystyle
M07 Chev/ Pont Bodystyle
R07 Chevy only Bodystyle

D07 Buick only "
T07 Buick/olds "
S07 Olds only "

We know that the '07' means a hatchback body shell structure. We know that there wasnt just one version of an '07' shell.
Its known that the R structure has different front and rear than the M structure for sport and non sport appearances.
That leads me to think that each of these were individual versions of an '07' structure.

Each one with a slightly different front and rear fascia mounting structure to fit its model type.

It would be interesting to see if the structures were indeed the same between a Buick T07 and an Olds T07,

And the differences of a pontiac/ chevy M07 (up to '79) vs a 1980 E07.
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Re: 1976-1980 Monza/Starfire Passenger Option Shipments Reports

Postby fyrftr50 » Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:11 am

S07 - Buick only
D07 - Olds only
T07 - Buick/Olds

Do we know for sure that the 07 shell is different between models? I always assumed (I know, I know, lol) that the differences lie in the facias but that the original structures were unchanged and just used different facia mounting structures but no different mounting points on the 07 shell. I always figured you could bolt on any 07 front end onto any model without a problem, as long as you had all the correct internal structures needed. (ie turning a Monza into a Sunbird like Dave is going to do). The front letter just tells you which front/rear end to mount and which internal structures went with it. Odd to think the Buick and Olds structures would be different, especially from 75-78.
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Re: 1976-1980 Monza/Starfire Passenger Option Shipments Reports

Postby marco_1978_spyder » Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:44 am

fyrftr50 wrote:S07 - Buick only
D07 - Olds only
T07 - Buick/Olds

Do we know for sure that the 07 shell is different between models? I always assumed (I know, I know, lol) that the differences lie in the facias but that the original structures were unchanged and just used different facia mounting structures but no different mounting points on the 07 shell. I always figured you could bolt on any 07 front end onto any model without a problem, as long as you had all the correct internal structures needed. (ie turning a Monza into a Sunbird like Dave is going to do). The front letter just tells you which front/rear end to mount and which internal structures went with it. Odd to think the Buick and Olds structures would be different, especially from 75-78.



Try Bolting the Sport monza Rear fascia to a non Sport Body.
ie: R07 parts on an M07 shell....
U have to undo spotwelds, and swap in the corresponding rear structure.

The fronts will bolt up but you'll be missing a hole in the sheetmetal for the highbeams.

So like I said, we know the differences in R vs. M.....

I'll have to take a close look at some T07 D07's and S07's if I can find any.

Thanks for the D07/ S07 / T07 corrections...lil mix up on the Buick / Olds side.
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Re: 1976-1980 Monza/Starfire Passenger Option Shipments Reports

Postby spyderman1977 » Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:52 pm

Wow that number for the BiCent. Vega is a whole lot higher than what I was expecting. Especially considering how few are left. So far I think I have seen maybe 3 or 4 Vega hatchbacks ( 3 white hatchback and 1 blue ) and then the one Nomad that I personally have seen. The Monza that showed up not too long ago was red with the BiCent. interior.

While I have to admit that the pattern used on the seats was not the most appealing...The blue 76 Vega with that interior really didn't look all that bad. Of course when you opened the door the first thing that stood out was the red carpet. The rest was the regular white with the multi-colored seat insert.

Hey Brian..any chance of break down on 76 Nomad's? Probably no way of knowing how many were 76 Nomad with the BiCent. interior.

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Re: 1976-1980 Monza/Starfire Passenger Option Shipments Reports

Postby stage169 » Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:13 pm

I think the Spirit "76" and the Heritage interior are different options. I've talked to a guy who owns an original Spirit "76" Vega and he said there was an American flag badge on the fenders where the GT emblem would go an also the same design on the center caps for the wheels. His original interior was black. The Chevy reports don't show how many Monza's or Chevette's were made with the Heritage interior just the Vega? Honestly I think these reports are missing a lot of options. They only show the Cabriolet option for 76 and its not the same RPO on Bryan's site. I thought Ken's Spyder with the C06 roof would be on it or the White stripe deluxe Spyder Marco was talking about but I don't see them.

Is the Nomad a 1HVD5 Vega Panel Express? 1,525 were made in 76. RPO 07H for the 1776 Heritage Knit Cloth Bucket had 2,620 Vega's with it. I haven't seen any RPO combinations on the Chevy reports.

I asked Ben to check his cowl tag on his 79 & 80 Hawks. His 80 is an "S" Hawk. It does have 4HT07 on the cowl tag. I know the 76 that was in my drive for a year was an "S" Hawk and I copied down the cowl tag and it had 4HS07 on it. Maybe it changed in 79? Anyway it would be nice to see an older "S" Hawk's cowl tag and know for sure.

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Re: 1976-1980 Monza/Starfire Passenger Option Shipments Reports

Postby fyrftr50 » Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:45 am

marco_1978_spyder wrote:
fyrftr50 wrote:S07 - Buick only
D07 - Olds only
T07 - Buick/Olds

Do we know for sure that the 07 shell is different between models? I always assumed (I know, I know, lol) that the differences lie in the facias but that the original structures were unchanged and just used different facia mounting structures but no different mounting points on the 07 shell. I always figured you could bolt on any 07 front end onto any model without a problem, as long as you had all the correct internal structures needed. (ie turning a Monza into a Sunbird like Dave is going to do). The front letter just tells you which front/rear end to mount and which internal structures went with it. Odd to think the Buick and Olds structures would be different, especially from 75-78.



Try Bolting the Sport monza Rear fascia to a non Sport Body.
ie: R07 parts on an M07 shell....
U have to undo spotwelds, and swap in the corresponding rear structure.

The fronts will bolt up but you'll be missing a hole in the sheetmetal for the highbeams.

So like I said, we know the differences in R vs. M.....

I'll have to take a close look at some T07 D07's and S07's if I can find any.

Thanks for the D07/ S07 / T07 corrections...lil mix up on the Buick / Olds side.


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I did not know about the rear facias being different and needing things done to the shell, cool info. As for the front, I know you need the internal structures for the highbeams but I assum (there's me doing that again) that was part of the R07 option, not something that was uniform to All Monzas. I guess I figured all Monzas shells came without that front internal; structure and depending on what car came down the line (R or M), then the accociated front ends were bolted on. Maybe that is the case with the rear ends, when an M car came down, the rear end was fitted with all the internals so really the shells of the cars would ALL be identical, but the R or M code would tell the line workers which front and rear structures to mount. basically what I mean, is the shell of the car does not include any front or rear structures until the R or M designation is attached to it on the line. This really has got me interested in the whole assembly of these cars, i think a trip to Lordstown in June may just be a MUST.
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Re: 1976-1980 Monza/Starfire Passenger Option Shipments Reports

Postby spyderman1977 » Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:17 pm

Bryan there was a pic on here showing the differences between the rear structures of a the hatchbacks. I can't remember where it is located but someone had a sport hatchback with the pass side tail light removed as well as the non sport ( flat rear panel ) car with the same rear tail light removed. The difference is obvious the way the pics were lined up. I always thought the quarters were the same but you can definately see the difference.

Brian....The BiCent. edition is the Heritage option. The Vega that you are talking about with the Flag on the fender should be a Spirit of America car which was a 74. They were all white with red/blue pinstriping as well as the flag on the side.
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