Interesting H-Body numbers

[fyrftr50]

Ran across some interesting numbers when I was doing some production number crunching. This could also relate to other H-Body numbers once I can get them figured out for the Skyhawk

1980 Skyhawks for example ...

US - 7,108
Canadian - 1,038
Hawaii - 22 (Code said "AAR - HAW ST" which I'm assuming State of Hawaii - based on '76 AAR stating HAWAII, not HAW ST)
Export - 154 (75 to Japan, 63 to Antwerp, & 16 to "EXP DET")
TOTAL - 8,322

No idea what the EXP DET is (export Detroit?), but I assume 'Japan' and 'Antwerp' were regional distribution points for Asia and Europe respectively

Of the Domestic production ...
27 - SLS BLG (???)
142 - DLR DMO (Dealer Demo?)
1029 - RETAIL (???)
1 - FLEET O (??? - something to do with fleet, obviously)
5 - CO. CAR (Company Car?)
6 - DRVR ED (Driver's Education Car?)
99 - N/P FLT (??? - another fleet designation?)

Other codes for other years also have
SCO - ???
F/F DEL - ???
Any ideas ???

I have some of this information for 75-77 as well, but wanted to see if any blanks could be filled first!!!

This is just a minute sample of the Skyhawk information Brian J. has got me racking my brain over these days!!!!! (It is ALL his fault)

[stage169]

I guess we need to ask Sloan where did they get these reports? We need some names to ask these questions too.

I've tried before but with no luck to contact UAW groups asking if any members could help. Maybe a salary employee would only see these reports but somebody out there has to know.

Good grief maybe I'll contact the History Detectives on PBS and see if they can help!

Racking your brain keeps you young

[Len]

Here's a thought perhaps what your looking at is the export sheet to the various countries, and where the car were located in the US to ship The first part of the line 3 digit code. Thats would be assuming the cars were delivered to the Dealers in the US And had to be shipped from that (There ) to there location abroad ?????? Just a thought
Len

[Len]

Ok now that i see a little better Bryan the total production #s are there in your high lights but what you have done is included the exports to Canada and Hawaii in that mark. I am thinking that Can and Haw. are not truly considered and export as Can is across the fence (if you will) and Haw is state there fore not considered a true export. Like Japan or the other 2 in your highlight for export. I am thinking that the first row of letters are an abbreviation for the ports or air ports that the cars were to be shipped to ???? history is no where my forte but I think some digging will show that Det doesn't only stand for Detroit as really it it just an acronym or abbreviation possibly to keep the paper work simple for those in the know at Buick, and not a true shipping label. Wonder if the Chev exports have similar abbreviation for there export market. IE was it a GM thing or a Buick thing or

[stage169]

Bryan,

Hey it looks like the Chevy 75 report has resurfaced according to Christo. That and the Chevy reports for 71 up should be coming soon. Their design group is still looking for the prototype Monza pictures (and anything else H related).

I've been going through the Buick three letter codes and should have the file done soon. Brian

[fyrftr50]

I also put the Buick codes on excel, although for some years the same 3 letter code seems to mean something different, what a pain in the arse. 75 has come up, excellent, now if we can get the 1981 reports that would cap it for the Monza.

[stage169]

Got the reports. If you want I'll email them to you the file size is 13meg.

Now I know why we didn't get the 75 Monza totals ..... they combined them with the Vega!

I'll try and email 75 to you this afternoon. Do the rest later. Brian

[fyrftr50]

Brian
Received the 74 and 75 reports, can't beleive they combined the 2 cars for '75, what a crock, we'll never get ALL the number straight now. 75 will always have some missing now.

[stage169]

I know in fact what little I've looked at 75 it is going take five times the effort to figure it out. I told Clyde about the 16 paint code numbers and I think it only shows the Monza "S" getting that color and his car is a 2+2. I've seen at least ten different "Models" production numbers. I've figured some out but still many to go. I'm sure there are some new RPO's though. Brian

[fyrftr50]

Yeah, the paint is a unique thing for 1975. There were 10 colours for the 2+2 then instead of using those same 10 colours for the Towne Coupe, they used just a few of them and came up with a few new ones JUST for the TC. Like you found out, 16 colours does sound about right. I've just printed out the listing for 1975 and will get started on it today, fun wow, lol.

[marco_1978_spyder]

Hey this brings up an interesting question for me..

The Southgate California plant did they produce only S coupes (According to the Standard Catalog of Chevrolet the 1975 'S' coupes were the Town Coupes/ Notchbacks introduced in April of 1975 as a answer to ford's Mustang II Ghia coupe.) EDIT Although down below it does list a Hatchback in the S catagory, so there goes that.

Could this still explain the decision to introduce all new colors for one model? , being that Southgate had to use a newer WaterBased paint to meet the strict Cali Air Polution Standards?

The publication makes no mention of the southgate plant that year so maybe not...

Just a thought.

It also says only 66,615 monza's were built that year so I gues there number's and info for '75 is as clouded as everyone elses.

[fyrftr50]

I've found that not everything coming out of the Standard Catalogs is accurate. I've found discrepancies in all 4 models over the years when it comes to their information and numbers. I have "Accumulative Shipments Reports" that show that all 'S' hatchbacks were assembled in Ste. Therese, while most of the Towne Coupe were built in the US (Southgate obviously), which would explain your waterbased paints and help explain why there were colours available for the 2+2 but not the TC. All Hatchbacks (2+2 and 'S') had the same 10 exterior colours while the TC had 13 exterior colour selections, with only a few used on both models.

Read the later edition Chevrolet dealer brochure for 1975, the 'S' cars were just the 2+2 cars, not TC's

Only 2,623 TC were built in Canada, while the remaining 66,615 were built in Southgate, CA. All 2+2 and 'S' hatches were built at Ste. Therese.

The Standard Catalog is only showing cars built in the US at Southgate (the 66,615 figure you mention Marco), for some reason they have completely omitted ALL Canadian built Monzas for '75.

And Standard's mention of the 'S' notchback answering the threat of the Mustang Ghia is just wrong, the dealership brochure tells the real tale and all mention of the 'S' in other literature i have is as a 2+2, not a Coupe. Standard drops the ball yet again, lol.

[stage169]

Bryan I should of said 16L & U paint code production numbers. Clyde's car has the 16L/U paint code. So far this report only shows the "S" getting this color (unless I've missed it).

Marco check this out.

[fyrftr50]

Brian
yeah, I've encountered some of those discrepancies. It isn't making a lot of sense yet, maybe it will once i get a closer look at it. Maybe!