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Re: POSSIBLE... LAST VEGA EVER MADE

Postby ski.dive » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:47 am

Brian:

General Motors Heritage Center wants $50 per invoice.

But according to them, see what they said bellow:

"pulling invoices at $50 each would be very expensive to go through thousands of invoices to find the last Vega"

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Re: POSSIBLE... LAST VEGA EVER MADE

Postby ski.dive » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:24 am

ANOTHER UP DATE FROM General Motors Heritage Center

Here's the email I just received from them:

They also built some Monzas and their VINs would be included in the sequential number sequence, but an "M" would in the second digit instead of a "V". I don't think you can say that you have the last Vega built.

***He's saying "I don't think you can say that you have the last Vega built"

"I don't think"...Is what he says!!!

***BUT HE'S ALSO NOT SAYING THAT MY VEGA CAN BE THE LAST VEGA BUILT

IN OTHER WORDS,General Motors Heritage Center DOES NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE LAST VEGA BUILT!!! :bang:

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Re: POSSIBLE... LAST VEGA EVER MADE

Postby cosworth0135 » Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:59 am

since yours is a wagon, and the wagons weren't done in 77 i believe your pissing into the wind even the hatches weren't done in 77 the monza S was a vega hatch with a monza grill so the only vegas the were last in 77 were the trunk models here you go a write up stating the wagons were around 2 more years after the vegas http://www.carlustblog.com/2010/12/car- ... nza-s.html
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Re: POSSIBLE... LAST VEGA EVER MADE

Postby my79monza » Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:34 am

Why are we two pages into this thread and no pictures?
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Re: POSSIBLE... LAST VEGA EVER MADE

Postby tinsfci » Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:42 pm

my79monza wrote:Why are we two pages into this thread and no pictures?
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Re: POSSIBLE... LAST VEGA EVER MADE

Postby ski.dive » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:10 pm

cosworth0135 wrote:since yours is a wagon, and the wagons weren't done in 77 i believe you pissing into the wind even the hatches weren't done in 77 the monza S was a vega hatch with a monza grill so the only vegas the were last in 77 were the trunk models here you go a write up stating the wagons were around 2 more years after the vegas http://www.carlustblog.com/2010/12/car- ... nza-s.html


Helo:
I have a 1977 VEGA state wagon, why are you saying my car ia a monza, MY VIN# AND TITLE SAYS IT'S A 1977 Vega?

Yes they made a monza wagon in 1978,that has nothing to do with what we are talking about the 1977 Vegas
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Re: POSSIBLE... LAST VEGA EVER MADE

Postby ski.dive » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:10 pm

cosworth0135 wrote:since yours is a wagon, and the wagons weren't done in 77 i believe you pissing into the wind even the hatches weren't done in 77 the monza S was a vega hatch with a monza grill so the only vegas the were last in 77 were the trunk models here you go a write up stating the wagons were around 2 more years after the vegas http://www.carlustblog.com/2010/12/car- ... nza-s.html


Helo:
I have a 1977 VEGA state wagon, why are you saying my car ia a monza, MY VIN# AND TITLE SAYS IT'S A 1977 Vega?

Yes they made a monza wagon in 1978,that has nothing to do with what we are talking about the 1977 Vegas
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Re: POSSIBLE... LAST VEGA EVER MADE

Postby ski.dive » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:10 pm

cosworth0135 wrote:since yours is a wagon, and the wagons weren't done in 77 i believe you pissing into the wind even the hatches weren't done in 77 the monza S was a vega hatch with a monza grill so the only vegas the were last in 77 were the trunk models here you go a write up stating the wagons were around 2 more years after the vegas http://www.carlustblog.com/2010/12/car- ... nza-s.html


Helo:
I have a 1977 VEGA state wagon, why are you saying my car ia a monza, MY VIN# AND TITLE SAYS IT'S A 1977 Vega?

Yes they made a monza wagon in 1978,that has nothing to do with what we are talking about the 1977 Vegas
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Re: POSSIBLE... LAST VEGA EVER MADE

Postby ski.dive » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:17 pm

UPDATE WITH ANOTHER REPLY TODAY FROM General Motors Heritage Center :

I can't definitively prove that it is the last Vega built by the VIN number.

General Motors Heritage Center
6400 Center Drive
Sterling Heights, MI 48312
(586) 276-0693
gmhc@gm.com

In other words, with my vin #,General Motors Heritage Center can not verify that my VEGA is the last one made :censored:
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Re: POSSIBLE... LAST VEGA EVER MADE

Postby marco_1978_spyder » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:00 pm

At least no one else is stepping forward with an even later VIN...so as it stands now, at least technically, you have the newest Vega in existence.
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Re: POSSIBLE... LAST VEGA EVER MADE

Postby stage169 » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:47 pm

Hard to get an answer but hopefully GM Heritage will mail back. I'll just paste my email instead of typing it all over again. Hope it makes sense.

From: jim.vehko@gm.com [mailto:jim.vehko@gm.com] On Behalf Of gmhc@gm.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 8:19 AM
To: Brian Jackson (6983)
Subject: RE: 1977 Chevrolet Vega VIN numbers

Brian,
I checked with records and yes, the VINS are in sequential order and models could be mixed. They plug the last eight (8) numbers into the search function. That would include the year, the plant and the sequential number.


"Brian Jackson (6983)" 04/24/2012 09:44 AMTo"'gmhc@gm.com'" <gmhc@gm.com>
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SubjectRE: 1977 Chevrolet Vega VIN numbers

Year, Plant and then the last six digits for the sequential number. So if a Vega and a Monza were made at the same plant the last eight numbers could be identical??? But they should be the only models together since the sequential number starts with “1”! Other models are going to start with different numbers.


From: jim.vehko@gm.com [mailto:jim.vehko@gm.com] On Behalf Of gmhc@gm.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 11:22 AM
To: Brian Jackson (6983)
Subject: RE: 1977 Chevrolet Vega VIN numbers Brian,

No, they would not be identical. I pulled a higher number (7U183121) at random and it came out a Sport Van, which was also built at Lordstown. The search function won't let us separate by model only by the last eight. There is no way that I can look for the last Vega without having records go through thousands of records.


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Jim,

OK, I'm just trying to work through this and I certainly appreciate your help! The reason I thought there would be identical numbers (last 8 digits of VIN) is because of the total number of Monza's made for 77. I forgot the majority were made in Canada. Only 6,230 Monza's were made at Lordstown and they were all Town Coupe cars. So that would give us a total of 84,632 H bodies made at Lordstown in 1977. This total goes past the Sport Van sequential number you looked up?

That is really a surprise to me that different models would have the same sequential range. I know all the models didn't. This is off the net so take it for what its worth - This way if the plant is building 3 different vehicles, each vehicle line will be in a unique sequential range - Camaros at 100001, Novas at 300001, Impalas at 700001, etc...

The Buick micro film was labeled for 1979 by the last eight digits of the VIN. The Skyhawk started with 4 for the sequential part of the VIN and you can see from the previous picture that these are 1979 models and then the Lordstown plant code 7 (in 79 it was 7). So that is what I'm trying to understand.
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Re: POSSIBLE... LAST VEGA EVER MADE

Postby cosworth0135 » Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:59 pm

i wasn't saying your car was a monza i said they kept making the vega wagon after 77 its just that in 78 and 79 they were called monza's but the were still vega wagons same with the 1978 monza S it was a vega hatch back not a monza but it was called a monza S in 78 although your vega was made in late july of that year and was labeled a vega if it was made a few weeks later it would have been called a monza but it would have been the same car. you know if you go next to edit and click the x on those double postings you can delete the extra ones, wasn't trying to piss you off but the info i posted was true info.Timmy
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Re: POSSIBLE... LAST VEGA EVER MADE

Postby ski.dive » Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:23 am

stage169 wrote:Hard to get an answer but hopefully GM Heritage will mail back. I'll just paste my email instead of typing it all over again. Hope it makes sense.

From: jim.vehko@gm.com [mailto:jim.vehko@gm.com] On Behalf Of gmhc@gm.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 8:19 AM
To: Brian Jackson (6983)
Subject: RE: 1977 Chevrolet Vega VIN numbers

Brian,
I checked with records and yes, the VINS are in sequential order and models could be mixed. They plug the last eight (8) numbers into the search function. That would include the year, the plant and the sequential number.


"Brian Jackson (6983)" 04/24/2012 09:44 AMTo"'gmhc@gm.com'" <gmhc@gm.com>
cc
SubjectRE: 1977 Chevrolet Vega VIN numbers

Year, Plant and then the last six digits for the sequential number. So if a Vega and a Monza were made at the same plant the last eight numbers could be identical??? But they should be the only models together since the sequential number starts with “1”! Other models are going to start with different numbers.


From: jim.vehko@gm.com [mailto:jim.vehko@gm.com] On Behalf Of gmhc@gm.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 11:22 AM
To: Brian Jackson (6983)
Subject: RE: 1977 Chevrolet Vega VIN numbers Brian,

No, they would not be identical. I pulled a higher number (7U183121) at random and it came out a Sport Van, which was also built at Lordstown. The search function won't let us separate by model only by the last eight. There is no way that I can look for the last Vega without having records go through thousands of records.


[quote]Brian Jackson
9:34 PM (7 minutes ago)

to jim.vehko, Brian


Jim,

OK, I'm just trying to work through this and I certainly appreciate your help! The reason I thought there would be identical numbers (last 8 digits of VIN) is because of the total number of Monza's made for 77. I forgot the majority were made in Canada. Only 6,230 Monza's were made at Lordstown and they were all Town Coupe cars. So that would give us a total of 84,632 H bodies made at Lordstown in 1977. This total goes past the Sport Van sequential number you looked up?

That is really a surprise to me that different models would have the same sequential range. I know all the models didn't. This is off the net so take it for what its worth - This way if the plant is building 3 different vehicles, each vehicle line will be in a unique sequential range - Camaros at 100001, Novas at 300001, Impalas at 700001, etc...

*** LOOKS LIKE I'LL NEVER KNOW FOR SURE IF MY VEGA IS THE LAST VEGA MADE...LOL :bang:
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Re: POSSIBLE... LAST VEGA EVER MADE

Postby tinsfci » Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:06 am

ski.dive wrote:*** LOOKS LIKE I'LL NEVER KNOW FOR SURE IF MY VEGA IS THE LAST VEGA MADE...LOL :bang:


But, anyway, it would be nice to see some pics of your Vega.

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Re: POSSIBLE... LAST VEGA EVER MADE

Postby cosworth0135 » Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:13 am

agreed pics would be nice
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