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1980 Pontiac Sunbird Formula

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:11 pm
by wheels777
I just bought one. There are filler pieces between the body and bumper that are missing. Does anyone have a picture of what they look like? Does anyone have a set for sale?

Re: 1980 Pontiac Sunbird Formula

PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:48 am
by wheels777
Can a Monza nose and tail be installed on the Sunbird? Is the radiator core support different? This is going to be a race car, not a restoration. Thanks.

Re: 1980 Pontiac Sunbird Formula

PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:46 am
by marco_1978_spyder
Aww, no more Formula? ... can you share some pic's of it as it is now?

A monza front bolts on. The rear from the sport model requires a change in the rear mounting panel. Its a spot welding project.

You might be able to bolt a flat monza rear panel on. the sunbird tailpanel is impossible to find..

Re: 1980 Pontiac Sunbird Formula

PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:54 am
by wheels777
marco_1978_spyder wrote:Aww, no more Formula? ... can you share some pic's of it as it is now?

A monza front bolts on. The rear from the sport model requires a change in the rear mounting panel. Its a spot welding project.

You might be able to bolt a flat monza rear panel on. the sunbird tailpanel is impossible to find..

I'll try to get a pic. And, yes I am thinking the Poncho tail will be a challenge to find.

Re: 1980 Pontiac Sunbird Formula

PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:14 am
by wheels777
Do you have a picture of the tail of your 78 Sunbird Formula

Re: 1980 Pontiac Sunbird Formula

PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:57 am
by dadhad1
Check with Dave @ Dave's Vega Village
604.469.9979
He's outside of Vancouver Canada eh.
He has quite a few H-Body parts and knows his H-Bodies really well.

Re: 1980 Pontiac Sunbird Formula

PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:23 pm
by BillPappy
My 80 bird has one left and it is in bad shape

Re: 1980 Pontiac Sunbird Formula

PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:33 pm
by BillPappy

Re: 1980 Pontiac Sunbird Formula

PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:38 pm
by marco_1978_spyder
Thanks for helping Bill.. I'm just guessing but I think the OP has a Hatchback..

Re: 1980 Pontiac Sunbird Formula

PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:30 pm
by Stonebird
Assuming you have a hatchback. You will not find the plastic rear filler panel that surrounds the taillights. Many have been searching unsuccessfully for years. It was made from a non UV protected urethane and did not hold up well. The monza counterparts however did hold up quite well. You can change to a Monza rear panel but you also need the metal part of the rear structure that the tail lights mount to for proper fit. They are all different for the different shapes and sizes of lights. The lights look similar in shape and size, but Sunbird lights fit different than Monza lights. I got the rear parts off of a flat tail style monza with chrome bumpers for mine. Same with the front I believe. The radiator supports are different based on two or four headlights and monza style front that drops down between the headlights vs. sunbird style hood that is relatively flat across the front. I think you would need to change the radiator support to use any monza front. In my opinion the quickest, easiest solution is cut the back out of flat tail style monza hatchback and use that rear panel, filler and taillights. Chrome bumpers are same. I don't think formula spoiler quite matches the monza rear filler but might be modified look ok. I plan on using Monza Mirage panels on my Sunbird hatchback so will not be have to deal with the formula rear spoiler fitment issue. Hope this helps.

Re: 1980 Pontiac Sunbird Formula

PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 7:15 am
by wheels777
Yes that helped...Thank you. Yes it is a hatch. Could a Monza filler be modified to match the Poncho taillights?

Re: 1980 Pontiac Sunbird Formula

PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 7:32 am
by Len
I do believe you looking for the bumper fillers on the Ft of the car or if it is in the rear the were a solid part of the rear filler panel.
Wish I was better with computes as I could post some links as to the different Tail panels and steel structures for the rear but I can tell you that !
What ever rear filler panel you choose it will bolt in to the sunbird . With that being said you will have to modify the steel tail light mounting to accept the tail lights . Here is a , pic that I 've posted before for other members .
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This is a 80 sunbird with a 80 monza flat panel tail light rear facia attached with the sunbird tail lights.
It is the only found quickly .
Perhaps another member has the other picks of the tail light mounting differences that I have posted handy and could provide the links
Len

Re: 1980 Pontiac Sunbird Formula

PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:25 am
by wheels777
Link did not work.

The plastic/rubber piece is missing on my car. I don't have anything between the bumper and the body.

Re: 1980 Pontiac Sunbird Formula

PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:58 pm
by BillPappy
They made a hatchback Sunbird?? Only kidding. I did realize that it could be a hatch after my post. 2360-2370 Asheville Hwy
New Market, TN 37820 Has 2 Sunbirds hatchbacks . 728-746 Haynes Rd
Dandridge, TN 37725 Has a field full of H bodys, But, there parts are lined with gold. I will try and get names and Numbers for the places this week end.

Re: 1980 Pontiac Sunbird Formula

PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:20 am
by Len
Sorry forgot to attach.
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And acouple of other pics
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*) sunbird tail light mounting .
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80 monza flat tail light mounting >
Len