From: monza2rn_REMOVE_839437_THIS_@yahoo.com
Well, with acid dip out of the question. Would
sand blasting be the other option. Or what would be a
better option to get those hard to reach areas.
I've
checked in on using POR-15 restortation products. Any
comments about going this direction?
Thanks for the
responses. Jim
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by h-bot » Sat May 06, 2000 1:16 pm
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by h-bot » Sat May 06, 2000 10:03 pm
From: CJBIAGI_REMOVE_139732_THIS_@yahoo.com
I don't think that I would want to acid dip a
monza. You have to ask yourself what shape is this car
really in? To acid dip it, it would have to be stripped
down to a bare shell. Depending on the condition of
the car, a much better solution would be to blast it
with a plastic media. It's like sandblasting but it is
much gentler on the sheet metal than sand. Media
blasting can strip the coating off a thin pop can and not
damage the metal! Sometimes sandblasting can warp the
sheet metal from excess heat or leave it rougher than
you want. Sand blasting the bottom of the car would
be ok, it is a excellent way to remove rust if that
is what you are dealing with but my experience with
the small home pressure units is that it is not real
good at removing thick under coating, you can do it
but it is going to take a lot of time and sand, maybe
professional places that have stronger machines would make it
easier. Generally speaking you want to use the gentlest
method that will get the job done. Give us a little more
info on your car and maybe we can help a little more.
Clyde
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I don't think that I would want to acid dip a
monza. You have to ask yourself what shape is this car
really in? To acid dip it, it would have to be stripped
down to a bare shell. Depending on the condition of
the car, a much better solution would be to blast it
with a plastic media. It's like sandblasting but it is
much gentler on the sheet metal than sand. Media
blasting can strip the coating off a thin pop can and not
damage the metal! Sometimes sandblasting can warp the
sheet metal from excess heat or leave it rougher than
you want. Sand blasting the bottom of the car would
be ok, it is a excellent way to remove rust if that
is what you are dealing with but my experience with
the small home pressure units is that it is not real
good at removing thick under coating, you can do it
but it is going to take a lot of time and sand, maybe
professional places that have stronger machines would make it
easier. Generally speaking you want to use the gentlest
method that will get the job done. Give us a little more
info on your car and maybe we can help a little more.
Clyde
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by h-bot » Sun May 07, 2000 12:59 am
From: monza2rn_REMOVE_742077_THIS_@yahoo.com
Well Clyde, I'm shooting for a complete body and
soul restoration of my 1975 Monza 2+2 (H07). It does
have dents in the rocker panel and the rear panel on
the passenger side. The car's paint was never taken
care of. And by the time I got to own it (1985), it
was shot. Over the years of driving it (up till 1998)
I've stayed on top of any rusting areas (knowing one
day it would get restored).
My worry is if I don't
do this right the first time, in the near future
I'll have rust coming from areas I should have taken
care of from the getgo. That is why I asking around. I
also hope to do as much work on the Monza as I
can.
Thanks for your reply and suggestions Jim
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Well Clyde, I'm shooting for a complete body and
soul restoration of my 1975 Monza 2+2 (H07). It does
have dents in the rocker panel and the rear panel on
the passenger side. The car's paint was never taken
care of. And by the time I got to own it (1985), it
was shot. Over the years of driving it (up till 1998)
I've stayed on top of any rusting areas (knowing one
day it would get restored).
My worry is if I don't
do this right the first time, in the near future
I'll have rust coming from areas I should have taken
care of from the getgo. That is why I asking around. I
also hope to do as much work on the Monza as I
can.
Thanks for your reply and suggestions Jim
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by h-bot » Sun May 07, 2000 2:37 am
From: puzwacky2_REMOVE_936613_THIS_@yahoo.com
the body should be blasted with wallnut shells.
this is the best media to use on the body. as for the
rest of the car sand is fine. if you have problems
with undercoating you can get diferant types of sand
media to do the job.as for little home sand blasters.
don't even think you can do the job with one of those.
they work great for small parts but i think you should
hire a pro to do the complete car. i think this is the
way to go. as others have said acid dipping leaves
the metal to naked. if it could be galvinized diped
after this could work verry well but would be verry
costly.
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the body should be blasted with wallnut shells.
this is the best media to use on the body. as for the
rest of the car sand is fine. if you have problems
with undercoating you can get diferant types of sand
media to do the job.as for little home sand blasters.
don't even think you can do the job with one of those.
they work great for small parts but i think you should
hire a pro to do the complete car. i think this is the
way to go. as others have said acid dipping leaves
the metal to naked. if it could be galvinized diped
after this could work verry well but would be verry
costly.
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by h-bot » Sun May 07, 2000 9:37 pm
From: CJBIAGI_REMOVE_675880_THIS_@yahoo.com
Jim, you are on the right track, you want to do
it right the first time or you will just pay more
for it later. If you have rust the only way to
properly get rid of it is to cut it out and put
replacement patch panels in place or replace the whole panel,
like a fender. If you just try to patch over it you
will be disappointed. What does the floorpan look
like? Is it solid? Are you mostly talking about body
work or do you have structural concerns? If the doors
are really bad you may want to try to find some in
better condition even if they need work. Body work can
be tough if you are not used to it which is why you
generally want to start with the best body you can. If you
make a plan and take your time however you can do it
yourself and save a lot of money and take pride in doing
it yourself. Keep us posted. Clyde
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Jim, you are on the right track, you want to do
it right the first time or you will just pay more
for it later. If you have rust the only way to
properly get rid of it is to cut it out and put
replacement patch panels in place or replace the whole panel,
like a fender. If you just try to patch over it you
will be disappointed. What does the floorpan look
like? Is it solid? Are you mostly talking about body
work or do you have structural concerns? If the doors
are really bad you may want to try to find some in
better condition even if they need work. Body work can
be tough if you are not used to it which is why you
generally want to start with the best body you can. If you
make a plan and take your time however you can do it
yourself and save a lot of money and take pride in doing
it yourself. Keep us posted. Clyde
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