From: corsaconvertible_REMOVE_308774_THIS_@yahoo.com
Does anyone have any experience with "PowerTrax
No-Slip Traction System"?
Supposedly it's a
do-it-yourself limited slip device that most anyone
can
install in less than 1 hour. It is available for most
rear wheel drive
applications.
Thanks,
Tony
Hansen corsaconvertible@yahoo.com
'64 Buick Skylark,
'65 Corvair Corsa Convertible,
'75 Cosworth Vega,
'55 Ford Thunderbird
Shenandoah, Iowa
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by h-bot » Thu Oct 12, 2000 2:23 pm
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by h-bot » Thu Oct 12, 2000 8:24 pm
From: twelve_second_vega_REMOVE_936423_THIS_@yahoo.com
Tony, I have installed this system in a Chevrolet S-10 and it seemed to work very well. However, at $300.00 retail, the Auburn Positraction Unit is equally priced and much, much better...Robert
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Tony, I have installed this system in a Chevrolet S-10 and it seemed to work very well. However, at $300.00 retail, the Auburn Positraction Unit is equally priced and much, much better...Robert
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by h-bot » Fri Oct 13, 2000 11:29 pm
From: nt664_REMOVE_532760_THIS_@yahoo.com
What you are talking about is not traction
control but a limited slip differential (LSD). There are
a few basic designs all with pros and cons. The
basic unit is the clutch type found in stock
positraction and Ford Trac-Lok units. These are very cheap but
the clutches typically wear out in about 20K miles
under normal city driving situations. They sense a
difference in torque and the clutches slip accordingly. The
next step up is the Auburn type cone units. These are
reasonably priced and perform great at the drags. However
they can be noisy on the street when turning which
limits their road racing ability. Up from that is a
helical gear torque sensing LSD. These are marketed under
Power-trax, Torsen, etc. They sense differences in torque and
apply power accordingly. They are great for off-road,
road racing, and will give you the fastest drag times
next to a spool or locker rearend. They are priced
high but it is a design used a lot in road racing and
high end production LSDs. They use the differential
fluid to opperate and will heat it up a lot during
extreme driving, lowering the viscosity and performance.
In extreme cases, they can actually ignite the fluid
in the axle so for hardcore road racing it's advised
to run a diff fluid cooler. The high end for LSD's
is the GKN Viscodrive coupler. It uses its own
silicon fluid to drive an internal pump and senses
differences in wheel speed. They aren't as fast at the drags
but will kick but at the road racing. They are used
in Lamborghini Diablo, Porsche Carrera 4 Turbo, etc.
These will cost way too much. The last step is lockers
and spools. Lockers are either on or off (both wheels
locked like a solid axle or no power going to either
wheel like on turns). Spools are both wheels locked all
the time and it doesn't really work on the
street.
While I don't have a lot of experience with all
these units, I do know the theory behind all of them
and that the auburn cone unit will make some freaky
noises on the street. Hope that info is helpful and
please provide any feedback about which unit you chose
and how it performs. Thanks
Elliot
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What you are talking about is not traction
control but a limited slip differential (LSD). There are
a few basic designs all with pros and cons. The
basic unit is the clutch type found in stock
positraction and Ford Trac-Lok units. These are very cheap but
the clutches typically wear out in about 20K miles
under normal city driving situations. They sense a
difference in torque and the clutches slip accordingly. The
next step up is the Auburn type cone units. These are
reasonably priced and perform great at the drags. However
they can be noisy on the street when turning which
limits their road racing ability. Up from that is a
helical gear torque sensing LSD. These are marketed under
Power-trax, Torsen, etc. They sense differences in torque and
apply power accordingly. They are great for off-road,
road racing, and will give you the fastest drag times
next to a spool or locker rearend. They are priced
high but it is a design used a lot in road racing and
high end production LSDs. They use the differential
fluid to opperate and will heat it up a lot during
extreme driving, lowering the viscosity and performance.
In extreme cases, they can actually ignite the fluid
in the axle so for hardcore road racing it's advised
to run a diff fluid cooler. The high end for LSD's
is the GKN Viscodrive coupler. It uses its own
silicon fluid to drive an internal pump and senses
differences in wheel speed. They aren't as fast at the drags
but will kick but at the road racing. They are used
in Lamborghini Diablo, Porsche Carrera 4 Turbo, etc.
These will cost way too much. The last step is lockers
and spools. Lockers are either on or off (both wheels
locked like a solid axle or no power going to either
wheel like on turns). Spools are both wheels locked all
the time and it doesn't really work on the
street.
While I don't have a lot of experience with all
these units, I do know the theory behind all of them
and that the auburn cone unit will make some freaky
noises on the street. Hope that info is helpful and
please provide any feedback about which unit you chose
and how it performs. Thanks
Elliot
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by h-bot » Sat Oct 14, 2000 2:54 pm
From: CJBIAGI_REMOVE_859801_THIS_@yahoo.com
I know that stock posi's in Monzas use a cone
type set-up. Is this the same as a Auburn cone LSD? I
have a stock posi in my monza and have never heard any
noise out of it and it works very well. I've got almost
70,000 miles on it and other than a few lub changes over
the years it is stock. Clyde
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I know that stock posi's in Monzas use a cone
type set-up. Is this the same as a Auburn cone LSD? I
have a stock posi in my monza and have never heard any
noise out of it and it works very well. I've got almost
70,000 miles on it and other than a few lub changes over
the years it is stock. Clyde
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by h-bot » Sun Oct 15, 2000 12:22 am
From: corsaconvertible_REMOVE_717236_THIS_@yahoo.com
I want to thank everyone who took the time to
answer my post on traction control (a.k.a.: limited slip
differential/a.k.a.:positraction). I'll repost on the topic after I complete the
job.
Tony Hansen
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I want to thank everyone who took the time to
answer my post on traction control (a.k.a.: limited slip
differential/a.k.a.:positraction). I'll repost on the topic after I complete the
job.
Tony Hansen
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by h-bot » Mon Oct 16, 2000 1:20 am
From: denisst78_REMOVE_644284_THIS_@yahoo.com
about locking rear ends;
detroit locker
aka
lock right, power trax
they will make
soem noise,
the locking action is made by
tooth engaging in each others to
lock unlock the
rear
tooths often get meshed together
giving you
lots of wear
you also have to look at the
carrier
if you`re carrier has wear on it the
tooths
will have too much clearance
resulting in a
slipping rear end
Auburn;
same desing then OEM
monza units
cone type , won`t make any noise if
you use the proper gera lube and posi
traction
additive
cones and carrier do wear out but auburn
sell
replacement cones
Ratchet type diff
AKA tick toc
diff
not very strong,
avoid for a performance
car
torsen and others
good design but the
cost is very high
in my choice a Auburn is a
good choice
and you can find one uncer some Monte
carlo SS and 1982 to 1992 camaros
1993 and up
camaros all had auburns
units in the z-28
version
Denis
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about locking rear ends;
detroit locker
aka
lock right, power trax
they will make
soem noise,
the locking action is made by
tooth engaging in each others to
lock unlock the
rear
tooths often get meshed together
giving you
lots of wear
you also have to look at the
carrier
if you`re carrier has wear on it the
tooths
will have too much clearance
resulting in a
slipping rear end
Auburn;
same desing then OEM
monza units
cone type , won`t make any noise if
you use the proper gera lube and posi
traction
additive
cones and carrier do wear out but auburn
sell
replacement cones
Ratchet type diff
AKA tick toc
diff
not very strong,
avoid for a performance
car
torsen and others
good design but the
cost is very high
in my choice a Auburn is a
good choice
and you can find one uncer some Monte
carlo SS and 1982 to 1992 camaros
1993 and up
camaros all had auburns
units in the z-28
version
Denis
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by h-bot » Fri Oct 20, 2000 4:05 pm
From: monzamess_REMOVE_522700_THIS_@yahoo.com
Do you know if the limited slips used in
modern GMs (like the S-10 and Camaro) are
the same as the ones used in the Monza?
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Do you know if the limited slips used in
modern GMs (like the S-10 and Camaro) are
the same as the ones used in the Monza?
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by h-bot » Mon Oct 23, 2000 12:10 am
From: denisst78_REMOVE_470281_THIS_@yahoo.com
S-10 trucks usually
use a ratchet type
diff
(not good for hig perf)
I did saw some whit
the Auburn
unit in them from the factory
Most 1988 and up camaro had
a Auburn unit
Ys they will fit in your monza
but take a look
first at the
axles splines some had 26 and
some had 28
26 means stock monza axles
26
splines s-10 axels
28 means 28 splines s-10 axels
only
Denis
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S-10 trucks usually
use a ratchet type
diff
(not good for hig perf)
I did saw some whit
the Auburn
unit in them from the factory
Most 1988 and up camaro had
a Auburn unit
Ys they will fit in your monza
but take a look
first at the
axles splines some had 26 and
some had 28
26 means stock monza axles
26
splines s-10 axels
28 means 28 splines s-10 axels
only
Denis
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by h-bot » Sat Nov 04, 2000 11:08 am
From: birdman8099_REMOVE_644553_THIS_@yahoo.com
I have a powertrax locker in my 350ci
sunbird.
it makes a little noise but as it wore in it is not
that loud, or heard that often. The company rep. told
me that they have tested them at up to 1000 hp. I
like mine and have never had a problem with it.
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I have a powertrax locker in my 350ci
sunbird.
it makes a little noise but as it wore in it is not
that loud, or heard that often. The company rep. told
me that they have tested them at up to 1000 hp. I
like mine and have never had a problem with it.
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by h-bot » Sat Nov 04, 2000 1:08 pm
From: fbratlee_REMOVE_352641_THIS_@yahoo.com
Can you give me an address for this rear-end, or
any information you might have ??? I am building up a
Rocket 350 Olds/TH350, for my 1979 Monza 2+2, and KNOW I
need more beef in the rear-end !!! Thanks Frank
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Can you give me an address for this rear-end, or
any information you might have ??? I am building up a
Rocket 350 Olds/TH350, for my 1979 Monza 2+2, and KNOW I
need more beef in the rear-end !!! Thanks Frank
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by h-bot » Sat Nov 04, 2000 7:19 pm
From: corsaconvertible_REMOVE_876807_THIS_@yahoo.com
Here's the address to Power Trax web site:
<a href=http://www.powertrax.com/ target=new>http://www.powertrax.com/</a>
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Here's the address to Power Trax web site:
<a href=http://www.powertrax.com/ target=new>http://www.powertrax.com/</a>
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by h-bot » Sun Nov 12, 2000 3:34 pm
From: birdman8099_REMOVE_294553_THIS_@yahoo.com
Bought mine from Summit Racing.
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Bought mine from Summit Racing.
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by h-bot » Wed Feb 21, 2001 2:14 am
From: monza95_REMOVE_102587_THIS_@yahoo.com
Hi,
Has anyone here ever broke a Auburn posi
or powertrax locker before.
Which powertrax
product is best for street combat, the lock right or the
no-slip traction system
Thankyou
From Monza95
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Hi,
Has anyone here ever broke a Auburn posi
or powertrax locker before.
Which powertrax
product is best for street combat, the lock right or the
no-slip traction system
Thankyou
From Monza95
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by h-bot » Wed Feb 21, 2001 10:58 am
From: trentec_REMOVE_984484_THIS_@yahoo.com
I have a friend that broke a power-trax locker
but we don't know that it was installed correctly!!
If the front end ever leaves the ground you don't
want one side spinning faster than the other!! Go with
the locker.
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I have a friend that broke a power-trax locker
but we don't know that it was installed correctly!!
If the front end ever leaves the ground you don't
want one side spinning faster than the other!! Go with
the locker.
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by h-bot » Thu Feb 22, 2001 10:31 pm
From: moses72616_REMOVE_544885_THIS_@yahoo.com
Yes I have broken two Auburn posies & don't recommend them to NO ONE.
Michael
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Yes I have broken two Auburn posies & don't recommend them to NO ONE.
Michael
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