Négative battery wire plug place?

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Re: Négative battery wire plug place?

Postby rocketride » Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:10 pm

res0o7eb wrote:
loupnotrkgt wrote:I'm live in Québec Mont-tremblant
Ah. Canadiens-français.
Utilisez-vous Google pour traduire du français vers l'anglais? http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=fr
Si non, essayez-le. Votre anglais est difficile à comprendre.


Clyde,
I had to use a translator for those of us that are English bound. :lol:

Ah. Canadians-French.
Do you use Google to translate from French towards English? Http: // www.google.com / language_tools? Hl=fr
If not, try him(it). Your English is difficult to understand(include).

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Re: Négative battery wire plug place?

Postby loupnotrkgt » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:20 pm

yes i use google tools for chrome.

sorry if i/you don't understand very good. :(

this is the wire come behing the brake booster
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and it come from here
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and today i found this wire :
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and it come from:
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If i understand the first wire is the ground for the small négative wire ?
and the second is the wire go in the block for the big négative wire?
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Re: Négative battery wire plug place?

Postby loupnotrkgt » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:22 pm

sry for the big picture i will try to resize it the next time...
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Re: Négative battery wire plug place?

Postby res0o7eb » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:55 pm

rocketride wrote:
res0o7eb wrote:
loupnotrkgt wrote:I'm live in Québec Mont-tremblant
Ah. Canadiens-français.
Utilisez-vous Google pour traduire du français vers l'anglais? http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=fr
Si non, essayez-le. Votre anglais est difficile à comprendre.


Ah. Canadians-French.
Do you use Google to translate from French towards English? Http: // http://www.google.com / language_tools? Hl=fr
If not, try him(it). Your English is difficult to understand(include).

Jon
Nope, not quite. I posted it specifically for French-speaking member loupnotrkgt.
This is exactly what I wrote and exactly how it translates back into English from French using Google. I always test it.
Ah. French-Canadians.
Do you use Google to translate from French into English? http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=fr
If not, try it. Your English is difficult to understand.


loupnotrkgt,
I have no idea what those wires are used for.
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Re: Négative battery wire plug place?

Postby marco_1978_spyder » Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:57 pm

Looks like somebody just cut your + battery connector off.

The red wire you show connect to the battery's + cable cable connector.

The black one appears to be from a sender of some sort. Temp sender perhaps?

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Re: Négative battery wire plug place?

Postby loupnotrkgt » Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:36 pm

nop somebody cut ( - )
the positive is installed
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Re: Négative battery wire plug place?

Postby Len » Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:33 am

Hello again Sorry man if I stepped on your toes there I was only trying to be helpful. Sorry my english sucks and french forget it .

The red wire your holding in your hand does from the pics look like it should be connected to the battery poss terminal . Are you having any other electrical problems. Poss a charging issue ?
Where you are pointing in front of the carb that is a temp sender and if the black wire connects to it it should go to the fuse box and then onto you light or gauge depending on the dash you have .
I am thinking al little more info is needed to help figure out what is what on your car like the first 6 letters ect of the vin , pics of the dash , Rear defrost Hatch or coupe. Seem to me some one has messed about there !!
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Re: Négative battery wire plug place?

Postby monzaaddict » Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:35 am

[code][/code]if your car came with air conditioning then you have an auxilliary fan ahead of the condensor ( ahead of the radiator). The wires are for the fan and possibly the temp sensor
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Re: Négative battery wire plug place?

Postby Len » Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:44 am

monzaaddict wrote:[code][/code]if your car came with air conditioning then you have an auxilliary fan ahead of the condensor ( ahead of the radiator). The wires are for the fan and possibly the temp sensor

I was thinking along the same lines but that alt appears to be mounted in the v8 with air ect position .But the fist pic shows a non ac heater box ? I Have an 80 bird with ac and smog pump . And his alt is mounted where my smog pump is ??? that why I am ask for more info. Dont know what code code is though ??? in your post
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Re: Négative battery wire plug place?

Postby loupnotrkgt » Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:44 pm

ok so i will intall a temp gauge... :D
1st that link to see my car when i buy it: http://sites.google.com/site/trkgarage/sunbird-1980

and yes i have some other pb:
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and that:
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and some one can take a picture of where the négative battery terminal come from????
and now for other who want anwser go see the video and that picture:
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Re: Négative battery wire plug place?

Postby Len » Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:55 am

Now I am confused the firs pic in your post re Neg battery wire plug place it shows blue valve covers and a centre mount alt the last picks shows orange valve covers and a rt side mount alt which eng are we working on to help you out ??? Nice sunbird in the vid but like the rest needs a tail panel ?
Never less : the last set of pics you have submitted to answer you what there are ? pic 1 - is a throttle kicker or Idle up solenoid used with ac equipped cars . Pic 2 - is the oil pressure socket it also controls the fuel pump, pic-3 appearers to be be a buick 3.8l even fire non ac car with orange valve covers. Noticing the red wire pulled up on the dr side that does goes to the reseting breaker that is used for the ac compressor relay . And that would also be the red wire you asked about. The temp sender I suggested I had a look at my car and I dont Have that one there so I can only assume that it is for the electric fan that was an option with ac cars as suggested by monzaaddict . My 80 ac equiped sunbird does not have this fan ?? And I have only see pics of this option .
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Re: Négative battery wire plug place?

Postby loupnotrkgt » Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:27 pm

the first picture (engine with blue valve cover) it's the car of monza75tc .


Pic 2 - (is the oil pressure socket it also controls the fuel pump)
so i need to plug it somewhere?

and can u go see on your engine and tell me where come from your big wire of the terminal battery
or a pic would be better. :th:

so thx, i will check this out...
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Re: Négative battery wire plug place?

Postby monzaaddict » Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:31 am

If you do not have the auxilliary fan which I believe only came on v8 cars then I think the first pic is the power lead for a rear window defogger. it is an add on option and I think it drew power from the alternator with an inline fuse on a v8 but might go to the battery on a v6. I am not that familiar with the later dashboards but I think you have the rear widow defroster switch to the right of the column.

The second picture is a temp sender for your idiot light - you do not have the optional gauge package (or aftermarket gauge or for an aftermarket electric fan controller).

The third picture is an idle speed solenoid - it was used on ac cars to bump open the throttle blades to compensate for the reduction in idle speed that would occur when the ac compressor was engaged. The solenoid was also used in other applications to set the idle speed instead of a idle set screw. This was so that when the engine was shut off the throttle blades would fully close preventing the run on which the v6's of the 70's were notorious for.

The fourth picture goes to what most people refer to as the oil pressure cut off switch.
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Re: Négative battery wire plug place?

Postby Len » Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:25 am

hello loupontkrgt Yup I do stand and bow down to monzaaddict He is absoultty right and I was wrong on the red wire from the battery , Being for the rear defrost .
Here are the pics you asked for
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Just so happens I have an eng on a cart to show you this one for the oil sender plug
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. Here are a couple more showing the red wire for the rear Defrost thanks monzaaddict good thing there is more than just me looking !!!
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And some showintg the temp and throttle kicker
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Re: Négative battery wire plug place?

Postby loupnotrkgt » Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:11 pm

VERY THX LEN. that what i want.... :th: :th: :th:

i go work on my car this week-end i will but some news... 8)

and if we have good meteo next week i will do paintshop after remake my intake so i invite u to come see and an let some comment :p
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