what are these things?

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what are these things?

Postby rtm » Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:02 am

anyone know where I can find the connectors this guy is using?
what are they called?
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Re: what are these things?

Postby cosvega76 » Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:30 am

They look like uninsulated butt connectors to me. Nothing special, should be able to get them at the local auto parts store. That, some solder, and heat shrink tubing.

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Re: what are these things?

Postby rtm » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:37 pm

If you watch closely, the butt connector BECOMES the solder.

why else would you put heat to an uninsulated butt connector?
you can actually watch them melt if you switch to full screen mode.
just wondering if anyone has any idea where to get them
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Re: what are these things?

Postby rtm » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:45 pm

similar item;

http://terminaltown.com/Pages/Page102.html
I was always told NOT to use "crimp" connectors, as they build electrical resistance.
these look like a feasable alternative
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Re: what are these things?

Postby rtm » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:06 pm

found similar connectors @ home depot
supposedly melt solder w/ heat gun ?
I'll let you know how they work out
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Re: what are these things?

Postby monzaaddict » Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:47 pm

rtm wrote:If you watch closely, the butt connector BECOMES the solder.



Look again he is adding solder. The length of solder is visible but his second hand is out of the picture
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Re: what are these things?

Postby spencerforhire » Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:54 pm

I use "solder'n'shrink" terminals regularly when I'm dealing with large current draw in a corrosion-prone area; they're a bit pricey, but way faster than the alternative- using dual -wall heat shrink over a normal soldered connection. They're available through most auto parts or electrical supply dealers.
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Re: what are these things?

Postby rtm » Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:41 pm

monzaaddict wrote:
rtm wrote:If you watch closely, the butt connector BECOMES the solder.



Look again he is adding solder. The length of solder is visible but his second hand is out of the picture



you're right, man, it sucks to be so blind at such a young age :oops:
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Re: what are these things?

Postby rtm » Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:44 pm

spencerforhire wrote:I use "solder'n'shrink" terminals regularly when I'm dealing with large current draw in a corrosion-prone area; they're a bit pricey, but way faster than the alternative- using dual -wall heat shrink over a normal soldered connection. They're available through most auto parts or electrical supply dealers.


these are what I found @ home cheapo
look harder to install, but save an extra step
spence, what do you use for a heat source ?
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Re: what are these things?

Postby spencerforhire » Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:53 pm

It's hard to generate enough heat with a normal heat gun to properly melt the solder; I use this butane soldering torch.
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Re: what are these things?

Postby rtm » Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:01 pm

spencerforhire wrote:It's hard to generate enough heat with a normal heat gun to properly melt the solder; I use this butane soldering torch.


so, it takes some skill not to "scorch" the shrink tubing,
I'll have to learn the hard way :rolleyes:
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Re: what are these things?

Postby NVEGAR8D » Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:07 am

Hi,
i just use a soldering gun to solder and then toshrink the tubing onto the connection.
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Re: what are these things?

Postby spencerforhire » Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:22 am

Oh yeah It's real easy to overheat the shrink before the solder melts;I like the Ronson torch because it has 2 adjustments- one for flow and one for mixture. It can be used to solder very fine wires with it's tip installed or gently heat shrink tube right up to soldering 2/0 wire terminals with an open flame.
Actually, the solder inside those special terminals is a low temp alloy; you are supposed to able to use a match or disposable lighter to heat them.
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Re: what are these things?

Postby rtm » Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:50 am

spencerforhire wrote:Oh yeah It's real easy to overheat the shrink before the solder melts;I like the Ronson torch because it has 2 adjustments- one for flow and one for mixture. It can be used to solder very fine wires with it's tip installed or gently heat shrink tube right up to soldering 2/0 wire terminals with an open flame.
Actually, the solder inside those special terminals is a low temp alloy; you are supposed to able to use a match or disposable lighter to heat them.


kinda like my welding skills i guess,
I can "bench weld" just fine, but get me in a tight spot, at a wierd angle, and :bang:
if I find these connectors too difficult for my tiny brain :wiggle: , I'll go back to more conventional methods.
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Re: what are these things?

Postby Ishiftem » Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:27 pm

I have tried those things. I personally don't like them. I find I damage the insulation 50% of the time trying to get the solder to melt.
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