It cranks fine but I can't get my ride to start!!!

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Re: It cranks fine but I can't get my ride to start!!!

Postby dindin » Tue Jul 07, 2015 10:28 am

So you checked power going to the coil?? You said it cranked but did not fire,, whats not getting power?

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Re: It cranks fine but I can't get my ride to start!!!

Postby bigguy5994 » Tue Jul 07, 2015 7:15 pm

It is completely dead- no spark, no anything.
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Re: It cranks fine but I can't get my ride to start!!!

Postby spencerforhire » Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:59 am

Did you replace(or bypass) the fusible link yet? If that doesn't fix it, you need to get out a meter or test light and check the large red wire on both sides of the bulkhead connector.
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Re: It cranks fine but I can't get my ride to start!!!

Postby dindin » Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:38 am

You said it cranks and the radio is working, so its not totally dead.

I would check to see if the coil is getting power with the ignition on then also when its cranking.

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Re: It cranks fine but I can't get my ride to start!!!

Postby bigguy5994 » Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:55 pm

Nothing is working- no radio,no lights, no anything.
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Re: It cranks fine but I can't get my ride to start!!!

Postby zeke » Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:33 pm

Because the fuse link burned up when you grounded out a battery hot wire when re-installing the interior.
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Re: It cranks fine but I can't get my ride to start!!!

Postby dindin » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:26 am

Oh , I thought it cranks but wont start, I must have missed something.

It should be easy enough to just check for battery voltage and see where it stops, I would start at the battery and follow best you can..like the guys have said it may be a fusable link,

My battery was actually connected to the starter then went off into the fuse box. They are red thicker guage wires.

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Re: It cranks fine but I can't get my ride to start!!!

Postby bigguy5994 » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:45 pm

All is good from the battery to the starter and the coil. I have the fusible link on order and should have it by Monday. Start the checking again once it is in IF it's not 100 degrees like it has been for the last week.
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Re: It cranks fine but I can't get my ride to start!!!

Postby bigguy5994 » Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:04 pm

Replaced the fusible link. I had moved a few wires out of the way (still connected just took them loose) to get to the bulkhead connecter, including the large red wire with the black connector in the middle. Went to put everything back when the large red wire on the right side of the black connector came loose from it and touched a piece of metal and sparks started flying!!! I can push it back in but it won't stay. At least I can say I had power to that point- bulkhead connector next? Thoughts?
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Re: It cranks fine but I can't get my ride to start!!!

Postby spencerforhire » Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:20 am

Sounds like the terminals on main feed wire are burnt; you can(again for "testing" purposes) run a piece of 12 g wire through another grommet to connect the two sides of the bulkhead connector.
The "fleet"-
77 Vega Estate wagon- project(someday)will have TPI305/T-5, S-10 spindles/axles
72 Vega HB Drag Car -383/'Glide/9"(9.45@146.19)(6.01@117.28 1/8th)
76 Vega GT- 400/4spd/9" retired from active duty(rusty)
03 Silverado 2WD ex.cab (work truck/parts hauler)
04 Silverado 2WD ex.cab (retired)
06 Haulin' 20ft enclosed car transporter
93 Suburban- 350/4L60(retired)
00 Saturn SW2- wife's car
01 Saturn SC2- younger son's project
00 Saturn SL2- daughter's car
98 Saturn SW2- spare
and 3 more Saturn "parts cars"
Note- the very act of listing all of these has made me realize I have some kind of problem.....

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Re: It cranks fine but I can't get my ride to start!!!

Postby bigguy5994 » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:03 pm

Thanks- one step at a time for me.
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Re: It cranks fine but I can't get my ride to start!!!

Postby bigguy5994 » Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:11 pm

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Who ever owned my Monza before me must have spent a lot of money on electrical tape cause there sure was a lot of it wrapped around my wiring. I was checking it this morning and noticed there were two fusible links close to the bulkhead that I had somehow never noticed. I checked both of them and the rubber casing was intact but found that I could not feel any wires- about an inch and a half on each one. Next move is to replace them and try again. I attached a picture so if anyone has any comments or further advice please let me know. Just want to get my car fixed so I can drive it-
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Re: It cranks fine but I can't get my ride to start!!!

Postby SeniorSavage » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:08 pm

thats how fusible links go unfortunately, they appear ok outside but the wire inside is usually burnt up stopping electrical continuity.

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Re: It cranks fine but I can't get my ride to start!!!

Postby bigguy5994 » Sat Aug 08, 2015 3:28 pm

Looks like most of my wiring is in worse shape than I thought. I am considering just getting a new harness and get rid of the old wires. If I do what do I need to look for and what all do I need to consider? I have someone who can take out the old and put in the new- thoughts and advice?
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Re: It cranks fine but I can't get my ride to start!!!

Postby spencerforhire » Sat Aug 08, 2015 5:55 pm

I don't think any of the replacement harness manufacturers like Painless or American Autowire make an H-body harness. But one designed for a comparable year Camaro would be pretty close, as things like headlight and ignition switches are the same.
An updated harness would have ATC (plastic blade style) fuses instead of glass, and usually more circuits as well.
The "fleet"-
77 Vega Estate wagon- project(someday)will have TPI305/T-5, S-10 spindles/axles
72 Vega HB Drag Car -383/'Glide/9"(9.45@146.19)(6.01@117.28 1/8th)
76 Vega GT- 400/4spd/9" retired from active duty(rusty)
03 Silverado 2WD ex.cab (work truck/parts hauler)
04 Silverado 2WD ex.cab (retired)
06 Haulin' 20ft enclosed car transporter
93 Suburban- 350/4L60(retired)
00 Saturn SW2- wife's car
01 Saturn SC2- younger son's project
00 Saturn SL2- daughter's car
98 Saturn SW2- spare
and 3 more Saturn "parts cars"
Note- the very act of listing all of these has made me realize I have some kind of problem.....

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