2012 MONZAQUE

[heapster]

next year, if i have a job. thats all i have to say about that. or aboot that for our GWN friends

[marco_1978_spyder]

I have a question about tolls... Does EZPass work? Google says there's going to be tolls in Canada, is this right?

[fyrftr50]

Hay Marco

There are no tolls except on the 407 and you won't be going on it unless you choose to (it runs north of the 401 from around Missisauga into Durham Region east of Toronto). And if so, you will get a bill in the mail in a few weeks or so (they take a picture of your plate and mail the bill, there are no stops on the highway itself). It is a per km charge so the farther you go on the highway, the more you pay, but it isn't overly expensive, but if you go in around rush hour, the charges are more.

Here is the website if you want more info before you decide to use it or not. I don't like to use it because I'm a cheap bastard but I do occasionally because it can save a LOT of time vs the 401 at certain times of the day and depending on how far across Toronto I have to go.

http://www.407etr.com/

Just to give you an idea ... If you did the full 107 kms on a weekend, it would be around $25, weekdays in prime time, about $31, that's Canadian currency, but depending on traffic on the 401, it could easily save you an hour or more on driving.

If your coming from the East you won't be near it, if you come from the West it is an option route or you can stick with the 401 thru Toronto. Just take a look on mapquest and you'll clearly see the 407 highway north of the 401 and Toronto). As far as i know, EXpass is only for the border crossing, definitely not the 407.

If your thinking of your round the lake trip and you do it from East to West, they you will not need to hit the 407 at all, if your coming the other way, I would seriously consider it, depending on your timing, of course.

[BillB1210]

Marco,

Leave early Sunday morning if you want to do the lake circumnavigation. Stay on the 401 through Toronto, no tolls and not much traffic on a Sunday morning. Otherwise, we can head back through Watertown on Sunday morning, stop at Arsenal Road and have a great breakfast at a 50's type diner. We have done that twice. Also an Exxon station there. Fill up at that station heading to Bryan's and fill up on the way back. Avoid the cost per litre in Canada.

That is the least expensive way I have found.

Bill

[fyrftr50]

Yeah we suck for gas, but at least in my area we have some of the cheapest fuel in the province.

[marco_1978_spyder]

I'm taking Bryans advice and heading in thru Watertown. I know Arsenal Rd... I worked at a Lowes there, and met Ivan for Sunbird parts there.

Thanks for the tip on the gas. Will stop there on the way. I'll probably follow you back that way, we'll see... Might head back towards Toronto, since once in the USA, Hamlin, isn't that far of a drive.

[BillB1210]

Marco,

We are leaving here Saturday morning early, probably at 7:00 AM, which puts us on the Thruway at about 7:15 AM. Estimated at Watertown/Arsenal Road around 9:45 AM. Border crossing at 10:30 AM. Arrival at Bryan's at 12:30PM.

Let us know if you want to join the trek, waiting to hear from Mark as well. Good to travel when it is cool in one of these older vehicles.

Bill

[fyrftr50]

weather has changed for the better, just as I figured.

Fri - from chance of thundersorms to cloudy.
Sat & Sun - from chance of thunderstorms to isolated showers

temps of 26-27 (78-80) still the same

[barebonesracecars]

Excellent.

The mark of a good host....has the ability to will the weather to his liking.

[marco_1978_spyder]

The route I'm charting will get me to RT81 at about the time you should be crossing through..my target is about 8:30 at either exit 35 or 36.(104a/ 104b) I'll see what the wind says. That should get me to Watertown at around the same time. @ 9:45.

[BillB1210]

Marco,

PM sent with cell numbers.

Bill

[fyrftr50]

Excellent.

The mark of a good host....has the ability to will the weather to his liking.

"The Force is strong with this one"

I've willled an even better forecast. Now it is Sunny with 0% POP on Saturday.

[barebonesracecars]

Damn, you're good.

Now, can you work on the POP (price of petrol)????

[fyrftr50]

The Force isn't that strong with this one!

No force on the planet can do much about gas prices.

[barebonesracecars]

Well, ok. I'll come anyway. I'll settle for that good weather you're forecasting.