Minimum Rearend width

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Minimum Rearend width

Postby BadBowtie » Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:17 am

Hello, I have a 75 Vega GT (but its not home yet) and i was offered a deal on a complete ford 9" trough a friend. It is narrowed 48" flange to flange and i was wondering if someone could measure (or possibly know off the top of their head :lol: ) what the minimum width that the vega can house under the stock body (no minitubs or hacking).

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Re: Minimum Rearend width

Postby spencerforhire » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:36 am

54.5" is the stock width; so 48" is way too narrow to use without tubs.
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Re: Minimum Rearend width

Postby cacmanjr » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:24 am

monzarear.jpg


These are the stock dimensions.
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Re: Minimum Rearend width

Postby BadBowtie » Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:06 pm

Thanks guys, appreciate the information :mrgreen:
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Re: Minimum Rearend width

Postby monzaz » Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:24 pm

Just remember the backing plates on the monza/vega there is MORE negative offset that a stock 9.5 x 2 backing plate used buy GM. they use the same backing plate backspacing as the a-body Wagons from 1965-1972. AND you can use them on your monza/vega 7.5 rear. BUT to tell you the truth they are probably harder to find then the 7.5 monza vega backing plates...lol. Sorry...but it is info that just thought needed to be known. :) Jim
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Re: Minimum Rearend width

Postby res0o7eb » Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:56 pm

BadBowtie wrote:... It is narrowed 48" flange to flange and i was wondering if someone could measure (or possibly know off the top of their head :lol: ) what the minimum width that the vega can house under the stock body (no minitubs or hacking).

Thanks for your help
I assume you mean AXLE-TO-AXLE flange width and yes that is narrow. But, the AXLE HOUSING flange to flange width is close.
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Re: Minimum Rearend width

Postby BadBowtie » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:33 pm

cool, well thanks for the info guys but the guy traded it months ago aparently, shame.
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Re: Minimum Rearend width

Postby jd502 » Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:36 pm

So on a 12bolt if it is 49" backing plate to backing plate that will work according to the above pic. The axles would be out to about 53"?
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Re: Minimum Rearend width

Postby jd502 » Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:39 pm

The pic says its 49.875?
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Re: Minimum Rearend width

Postby rtm » Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:24 pm

my 12 bolt is 48" backing plate to backing plate.
have 15"rims w/3.5" B.S.
fits nicely
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Re: Minimum Rearend width

Postby danfigg » Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:33 am

Here is some other alternative for the Fabricator. 57 inches is good with some backspace on the rims. I am in the process of building an 8.8 out of an exlporer cut one side the longer side and know the total is close to 57 inches and I will figure out the back space for the rims and have a 31 spline rear wich I picked up for 50 bucks----danfigg
Outside
Width Year Model
56.50 1969-1977 Maverick 8"
57.00 1974-1978 Mustang II 8"
57.25 1957-1959 Ford, Ranchero, Station Wagon
57.25 1965-1966 Mustang
58.00 1966-1977 Bronco
58.00 1964-1965 Falcon
58.00 1977-1981 Granada/Versailles
58.50 1977-1981 Versailles
59.25 1967-1970 Mustang, Fairlane, Comet, Cougar
60.00 1967 Cougar
60.00 1958-1960 Edsel
61.00 1964-1971 Ford Full Size
61.00 1949-1951 Mercury
61.25 1957-1972 Ford F-100 Pickup
61.25 1960-1964 Ford Full Size
61.25 1971-1973 Mustang
61.25 1967-1973 Torino, Ranchero, Fairlane
63.00 1970-1979 Ranchero & Torino
63.00 1972-1979 Ford Full Size & Intermediate
63.50 1967 Fairlane (Coil Springs)
65.25 1973-1986 Ford F-150 Pickup
65.25 1978-1986 Bronco
65.25 1973-1986 Ford Van 3/4 Ton
68.00 1972 Ford Van 3/4 Ton
69.25 1977-1986 Ford E-150 Van
Chevy Outside
Width Year Model
54.25 1983-2004 Chevy S10 2WD, GMC S15 2WD
57.75 1962-1964 Chevy II/Nova
57.75 1965-1967 Chevy II/Nova
58.00 1978-1988 Chevy Malibu, Monte Carlo
59.50 1968-1982 Corvette
60.00 1955-1964 Chevy Car
60.00 1967-1969 Camaro
60.25 1968-1979 Chevy II/Nova
60.50 1984-1995 Corvette
60.50 1964-1967 Chevelle
62.00 1955-1959 Chevy Pickup
62.50 1968-1972 Chevelle
62.50 1970-1981 Camaro/Firebird


Mopar Outside
Width Year Model
55.60 1960-1976 7 1/4 A-body
55.60 1973-1976 8 1/4 A-body
55.60 1966-1972 8 3/4 A-body
55.60 All 8 3/4 A-body
56.00 1932-1934 All Mopars
57.40 1963-1972 7 1/4 A-body
58.54 All 8 1/4 F-body
58.54 All 8 1/4 M-body
58.54 All 8 1/4 J-body
59.00 1935-1936 All Mopars
59.14 1966-1970 9 3/4 B-body
59.20 1962-1970 8 3/4 B-body
60.00 1937-1948 All Mopars
60.70 All 8 3/4 E-body
60.70 All 9 3/4 E-body
62.00 All 8 1/4 B-body
62.00 1971-1974 8 3/4 B-body
62.00 All 9 1/4 B-body
63.40 All 8 1/4 C-body
63.40 1971-1974 8 3/4 B-body S.W.
63.40 All 9 1/4 C-body
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Re: Minimum Rearend width

Postby spencerforhire » Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:00 am

Seeing that long list of rear end widths reminded me of the extra simple way I came up with the H-body width 9" that's still holding up my rusty 76 GT; I used a short(left) axle from a Maverick(8" and 9" 28 spline ones interchange) and a left one from a 71-73 Mustang. Voila-a 54.5" rearend without aftermarket or re-splined axles. Had them redrilled for 4.75" bolt circle and made a hub ring for the Maverick one to bring it up to the right size. 15x8 Corvette rally wheels with 225/60's fit perfectly under the rear, just like they do with the S-10 axle swap.
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72 Vega HB Drag Car -383/'Glide/9"(9.35@146.19)(5.94@117.28 1/8th)
77 Vega Estate wagon- project(someday)will have TPI305/T-5, S-10 spindles/axles
76 Vega GT- 400/4spd/9" retired from active duty(rusty)
06 Silverado 2WD ex.cab daily
03 Silverado 2WD ex.cab (retired)
06 Haulin' 20ft enclosed car transporter
06 GMC Canyon Shop truck
07 Colorado project( 5.3 4L60e swap)
99 Saturn SL1- wife's car
01 Saturn SC2- son's project
07 Saturn Ion Redline project
and 4 more Saturn "parts cars"
Note- the very act of listing all of these has made me realize I have some kind of problem.....

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Re: Minimum Rearend width

Postby MachoPoncho » Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:16 pm

So how short can you make the rear end and still use the factory 4 link.
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Re: Minimum Rearend width

Postby monzaz » Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:00 am

Well with custom axle we can go to the minimum BUT remember you have wheel wells to worry about so if you had zero backspacing which is kind of weird...lol you could knock off 2 inches on each side . What is it your trying to accomplish here? Jim
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Re: Minimum Rearend width

Postby greg72 » Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:46 am

When you have time check out 454Spyder's mini-tub job. If I had not already done a full tub job on my Vega years ago, I would have mini-tubbed it. I love the way this one came out.... This Monza looks PERFECT!

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