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LT1 flywheel question

PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:56 pm
by 76wagon
I have a T56 and clutch from an LT1 car and a 2 piece rear main seal engine. I know Centerforce makes a flywheel for this setup ($$$$$$$) but I got thinking. From what I understand the older engines had a larger flywheel bolt pattern than the newer ones and neutral balanced flywheels while the one piece rear seal engines have a smaller bolt circle and a weight cast into the flywheel. Correct me if I'm wrong, I've never seen the 2 side by side to compare.

I'm wondering what's stopping me from machining the LT1 flywheel to fit my engine- boring the centre hole, redrilling the bolt holes, machining the weight off and having it balanced. Anything I've missed? Might be worth trying since machine time is free for me and the LT1 flywheel is pretty much a paperweight right now...

Any thoughts?

Phill

Re: LT1 flywheel question

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:57 am
by spencerforhire
There is an adapter you can buy to put a one piece seal crank in your two piece seal block. but that's somewhat of an extreme fix. I was going to say remachining the flywheel to fit would never work, but after looking at the pic, I think it just might be possible.

Re: LT1 flywheel question

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 8:18 am
by cosvega76
Phill,

How much distance is there between the larger diameter of the two-piece crank hub and the ODs of the one-piece crank bolt holes? Will there be enough meat to be safe?

Chuck

Re: LT1 flywheel question

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 10:13 am
by 76wagon
I took a look at the flywheel when I got home last night- looks like more than enough room for the larger bolt circle, and the crank mating surface is machined way bigger than it needs to be. I figure since it will have to be neutral balanced I could rotate the new holes 30 degrees to avoid breaking into the old holes without a problem.

The one dimension I haven't been able to find is the diameter on the centre hole on an older flywheel. Does anyone know what it is?

I feel like there must be somethin I'm missing, it seems a little too easy...

Phill

Re: LT1 flywheel question

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:16 am
by spencerforhire
The 1 piece seal flywheel has a smaller hole, so it could be machined out. But by far the hardest part will be to get it to neutral balance.

Re: LT1 flywheel question

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 3:21 pm
by Kenova
76wagon wrote:
The one dimension I haven't been able to find is the diameter on the centre hole on an older flywheel. Does anyone know what it is?

I don't know the diameter but I do know it is a snug fit, but not a press fit.

76wagon wrote:I feel like there must be somethin I'm missing, it seems a little too easy...

Phill

That's only because you're able to do the machine work yourself. :lol:

Ken

Re: LT1 flywheel question

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 9:39 pm
by 76wagon
Ken- good point, sometimes I forget that not everyone can just bring this kind of thing to work and do it at break time. BTW, what part of Ontario are you from?

Spencer- I might have that partway covered. Just found out we have a really sweet grinding wheel balancer at work. That'll get me a static balance, I'm sure I can find someone in town to dynamic balance it.

Looks like I'm going to have a slow day at work Saturday, might have time to get cutting on this flywheel. All I need is the locating hole diameter. Can't seem to find it on the interwebs so I'll post the question on general discussion, hopefully someone has a small block in the garage and a mike or a caliper handy. People on this forum seem a little brighter than people on the rest of the Internet...

Thanks again
Phill

Re: LT1 flywheel question

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:06 pm
by Kenova
76wagon wrote:Ken- good point, sometimes I forget that not everyone can just bring this kind of thing to work and do it at break time. BTW, what part of Ontario are you from?
Phill


I often wish I had taken up the Machining Trade. Oh well, the General was /is good to me.
I'm up in Lindsay, about a two hour drive north east of TO.

Ken

Re: LT1 flywheel question

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:42 pm
by Monza Harry
Kenova wrote:I often wish I had taken up the Machining Trade. Ken

NO YOU DON'T! Ok if you get a "Dream Job" like Phill, sure. I went in thinking I could work on my car parts after work, just like everyone else thinks. But after 10 to 12 hrs. the last thing on your mind is more machining, IF you can get on a machine, there aren't "spare" machines in most shops today, so after a 1 hour setup, you turn the machine on and some :cuss: :censored: apprentice needs the :censored: machine to do something you reminded him 3X to do before he took it off! :censored: :cuss: Most sentences are comprised of many, many 4 letter words sometimes compound 4 letter words! So in thirty two years of tool making, my car still isn't finished and it keps getting to be a bigger project with everything I learn that will fit the car! :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: I have a headache! Harry It's hard to laugh when it is all you can do to stop yourself from crying! [that is a song lyric as best I remember it, from who? Beats me] "Edit" Well I was close: http://www.cduniverse.com/pursuit-of-ha ... 814513.htm that was around 1990+/-

Re: LT1 flywheel question

PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:58 am
by cosvega76
Phill,

I have a small block 400 flywheel here; I measure the center hole at 2.487".

Chuck

Re: LT1 flywheel question

PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:16 pm
by 76wagon
Thanks for the help everyone. I managed to get it bored and redrilled today, plus I machined off the weight. Here's some pics.


Here's a before shot.
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All machined now I need to grind the clutch face and have it balanced and it should be good to go.
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I probably won't get the T56 into the car this year but at least I'm one step closer.

Phill